Winstrol only? or stack with test)moved because not HIV related

[b18chatch06]

This will be my first cycle. I'm 6'0 180lbs currently at about 14% BF

i've been reading up and thought about taking a winstrol only cycle. if i would gain 10 solid pounds and lose some BF i would be happy. On the other hand i have also read that some people dont see the results they would like to.

my other option would be to stack winstrol with test to yield better results and gain approx 20lbs and get shredded.

i would rather not get bloating if thats what test will yield me. id like to tone it up some but gain 10-20lbs and i would be happy

what would you do?

 

[GAUDY]

Re: Winstrol only? or stack with test

test only is what i'd do...

winny at the end if you really want to throw it in...

 

[ambiencr2]

Re: Winstrol only? or stack with test

anabolic steroids is complicated.

you think hey i want to get from point A to point B.

Point A = i'm in shape, but i want to be bigger and more ripped

point b = guy who turns heads, that fuckin ripped ass fuckin big dude ass physique that i've always been dreaming i'd get


consider goals long term. consider health.

considering those test is best, it is the healthiest steroid you can use, hands down.

if you are going to be using steroids again (90% likely) you'll probably be involving test, hence the need to include it in your first cycle.-
Test also feels amazing, actually most people don't realize it's the aromatization to estradiol in the brain that gives you that delicious feeling of well-being, intensity, confidence, and virility, which non-aromatizing (i.e. winstrol) steroids do not give you...

this is why d-bol fuckin rocks as well, it converts to methyl-superbadass estradiol this is also why it bloats you and gives you boobs

this is also why aroma inhibitors can make you lethargic and kill libido, because it is actually testosterones direct conversion to estradiol in the brain that gives most of the well-being and sexual effects... interesting!

so, long and short version, test will reduce bodyfat and increase muscle mass just like all steroids, it will temporarily increase estrogen causing some bloating etc, but you will look bigger and more ripped esp. after cycle when bloat is gone

now test+win will give you both the goodness of the test and the drier more vascular and more anabolic combo with winstrol.

you'll probably get exactly what you're looking for,

however, this is probably going to produce a few side effects, and you won't know which compound is making you feel what way or causing joint problems, etc.

winstrol by itself will produce good results, but don't expect as much as if you threw in some test.

i say go either test alone, or test with winstrol.

test with winstrol will give you the results you are looking for but realize its a harsher combination and you might want to wait until future cycles to start stacking.

test makes you feel like a kid again, a big horny muscular kid. its like being hercules going through puberty.

 

[ALIN]

Re: Winstrol only? or stack with test

This will be my first cycle. I'm 6'0 180lbs currently at about 14% BF

i've been reading up and thought about taking a winstrol only cycle. if i would gain 10 solid pounds and lose some BF i would be happy. On the other hand i have also read that some people dont see the results they would like to.

my other option would be to stack winstrol with test to yield better results and gain approx 20lbs and get shredded.

i would rather not get bloating if thats what test will yield me. id like to tone it up some but gain 10-20lbs and i would be happy

what would you do?

definitely add the testosterone.

 

[tilibelgium]

Re: Winstrol only? or stack with test

hey there,

i just finished a 4 weeks winstrol cycle and i gained a dry 15 pounds of solid muscle (going from 164 to 180 in a month for 5'8") while retaining my 29inch waist and vascularity (this was my first cycle so the gains are going to go down from there for future cycles). I guess that should mean muscle and some water weight only. It's been a week and my weight is still stable, i did not get any sides except very mild acne but that's it. Next cycle will comprise test E, dbol and primo though

it all depends if you don't bother the sides but to tell you that winstrol only is not as bad as it is alone-without test(unless i'm lucky...). I wanted to try a very simple cycle to get down to 4-5% before moving on to things that aromatize

 

[squatmonkey]

Re: Winstrol only? or stack with test

I would start with just the test

 

[flajice]

Re: Winstrol only? or stack with test

I would start with just the test

this was from 6 months ago

 

[str8cubano]

My first cycle was winstrol. Don't drink while on the cycle though. You can run an only winstrol cycle (50mg/day no longer than 6-8 weeks and be successful. I was. However, throwing a small dose (250mg/test) would be beneficial in preventing lack of libido associated with winstrol, plus more gains, along with it being a great synergestic combo for building muscle with the winstrol. Of course, I would throw in small dose of armidex .25-.5 because of the test. These are things you have to consider when throwing in a compound that aromatizes such as test.

 

[jroc86]

Although I wouldnt recomend it I know a lot of people (athletes and pseudo bodybuilders) that have done winny only's ... only to experience great strength/vascularity/hardening with minimal sides, easy recovery, and very keepable gains.