Winny Quandary

[Hanabolic Lecter]

I started running a stack that includes winny tabs. Originally I wanted to use depot, but there were delays, so I went ahead started with what was available—the tabs. Now the depot is on its way.

Now that I have both—does anybody have any ideas on how I could use these two effectively? Should I alternate eod with tabs and depot, switch entirely to depot, or just save one or the other for next time.

thanks.

 

[Mr.X]

I usually drink winny, but that's another story.

This is interesting, since you have both, I assume you have 50mg winny tabs, why not use tabs 3 times a week, and depot 4 times a week. This way you use up both of the products.

P.S. 50mg ED is a very feasible dose

Mr.X

 

[Hanabolic Lecter]

I usually drink winny, but that's another story. <snip>

If I inject the depot will it be easier on my liver?

Lecter shamelessly gropes for further opinion on the same question he asked another member a short while ago.

 

[Mr.X]

Depot is easier on liver. Pills (orals) have a direct effect on the liver, hence the breakdown of orals in the liver. While Depot (injectable) is has a slow release, and, therefore, is released from the muscle. It does have an effect on the liver, but not nearly as bad as orals.

Mr.X

 

[Hanabolic Lecter]

Okay thanks!

 

[Mr.Evil]

So does that mean that by drinking the injectable, its easier on the liver than orally taking the tabs?

today is the 8th in my Win depot only cycle. I injected today and my left delt is a bit sore after the injection. Ive been taking it orally because I didnt want to draw any attention to myself with 4 or 5 pins at the airport since I travel frequently.

I only have enough left for 32 more days (taking 50 mg ED) and was curious as to what I should get to get thru for a full 10 to 12 weeks.

should I just stick with another bottle or 2 of winny injectable or swap up and go with tablets?

Thanks,
ME

 

[Hanabolic Lecter]

I was thinking along similar lines… I’m currently on an Eq/Winny stack, but the general consensus is that the Eq won’t start to be effective until the end of the cycle, so I was thinking of extending the cycle further than 45 days—but then there’s the whole “winny is hard on your liver” precaution.

So the question is… if I switch to Depot, either via injections or oral (drinking), will I be okay using winny for an additional two weeks, making this an eight-week cycle?

 

[G-Force]

Depot is easier on liver. Pills (orals) have a direct effect on the liver, hence the breakdown of orals in the liver. While Depot (injectable) is has a slow release, and, therefore, is released from the muscle. It does have an effect on the liver, but not nearly as bad as orals.

Mr.X

Surely the fact that Winstrol is 17aa means that it can only be metabolised by the liver so it should make absolutely no difference how it is administered as both the oral and the depot are chemically identical???

 

[Cornellius]

The only diference between an oral and an injectable administration of winny, is that if you take it orally it would pass one extra time on the liver. Also some studies have revealed that the oral administration increase IGF-1 levels.

 

[Jeff_rys]

bump this up

in my opinion Depot is easier on the liver. And surprise... my doc says the same.

 

[Cornellius]

Re: bump this up

in my opinion Depot is easier on the liver. And surprise... my doc says the same.

Well, my doc says that he is shure that all steroids (without exeption) aromatize to estrogen....and that I should be very careful about the sides of nolvadex. I haven´t gone to him since then.

The point here is that winny depot or oral, is the same thing, stanozolol. It has been made in an injectable form for animals, since animals don´t eat pills easily.

 

[2Thick]

I would recommend injecting the depot 4 times a week and taking the tabs to make up any dosage that you did not get through the injections.

 

[Jback]

I would laways inject the winny-non-binding ester compounds I feel do promote localized growth-nothing better then 50mg/winny in each bi and delt in my opinion.

 

[Hanabolic Lecter]

Thanks everybody for all the great advice, but the depot that was "on the way" disappeared into thin air. Now all I have is enough win tabs to carry me through day 42 of an 8-week cycle.

I do have some Anavar though. What do you think about using Anavar in place of winny for the last two weeks?

winny tabs/.50mg/day (run out in 3 weeks)
Eq/400mg/week
Fina/75mg/eod
Prop/75mg/eod
Arimidex/.5mg/day

Maybe I should start another topic?

 

[2Thick]

The anavar will make an excellent replacement. You will only need a little over 0.125mg x your body weight per day for good results.

 

[Hanabolic Lecter]

Hey—thanks for your help, bro. That’s some good info.