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Winny bashing ?

garbagegut

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I just read an article in last months Muscular Development that absoluty trashes Winny ... declaring that its dangerous sides far outweigh it's mild gains and/or benefits.

I was planning a Winny/EQ cycle for the Spring, but now I'm hesitating.

Thoughts ?
 
I love it! previous cycles include: 1) test enth/ halo, 2) d-bol/fina, 3) deca, 4) clen + ph, 5) winny, 6) winny. The early cycles were way too androgenic for my body, and were certainly a mistake. I will admit, others do fine on heavier compounds, its just not for me. Plus, i like a harder look, prob. b/c of the tail. I love winny b/c: 1) it actually cleared my skin whereas the others made it a mess, 2) gave me a small mass gain while making me hard as a mo fo, 3) people noticed an improvement w/o being too suspicious, and 4) i was not prone to hairloss (at least not yet), so losing hair was not a real concern, 5) i retain the gains better than anything else. Only drawback, was serious joint pains, but given my previous hardships, and my resilence for them, it was cake. Winny is my new best friend!!!.
 
GarbageGut said:
I just read an article in last months Muscular Development that absoluty trashes Winny ... declaring that its dangerous sides far outweigh it's mild gains and/or benefits.

I was planning a Winny/EQ cycle for the Spring, but now I'm hesitating.

Thoughts ?

yeah, i read that too. what a bunch of bullshit. i was so pissed about that article. they seem to point out the bad stuff moreso than the good points. they did the same with ox and primo the last few months in the featured steroid section. winny got bashed hard though. i love it. for getting ripped and vascular...its the best stuff i've used.
 
That "Crap" is what abled me to run the times in track i needed to get into college on a free ride. i don't think that it was fairly looked at.
 
Its part of the psych-warfare going on with supplement companies bro. If they can make you scared of doing something it gives them a better chance to make people buy their cell-tech products and all the other oral homeopathic crap you see in the magazine.

I dont even read magazines any more. I just get them for the pictures.
 
clen,
did the winny cause your joint pain, or make pre-existing pain worse? i never had elbow probs till i did a winny/dbol cycle. could have been that i went too heavy too fast...
 
graffixx said:
clen,
did the winny cause your joint pain, or make pre-existing pain worse? i never had elbow probs till i did a winny/dbol cycle. could have been that i went too heavy too fast...

??? A winny/dbol cycle!! I'm suprised your liver is still in your body? :rolleyes:
 
bjtheman said:


??? A winny/dbol cycle!! I'm suprised your liver is still in your body? :rolleyes:

lol. i did it to. 5 weeks dbol followed by 4 weeks winny. not gonna kill you bro. :alien:
 
Winny KILLS my joints, especially problem areas like the shoulder. No thanks, I say.

Q. Why did Donovan Bailey snap his achilles in light warmups for pickup basketball?

A. Winny


Q. Why did Trent Dilfer snap his achilles dropping back for a pass?

A. Winny


It's fun for awhile, but I believe it can catch up to you.
 
Graffix,
definitely think it was the winny. of course, in the past, from time to time ive had some sore joints--like sore elbows from going too heavy on overhead dumbells, but it was always temporary and related to my ego by going too heavy. when i backed off the weight--no more probs. i dont go heavy anymore and i didnt get all that strong on the winny, but then again, i dont train for strength anymore. i just use a reasonable weight and go real slow and winny really dried out my knees, elbows, and my rt wrist. its been 2 mos since my last shot and my joints are just starting to feel a little better--another reason im sure its the winny. in your case, id guess its the winny. u may want to try going lighter and slower to help w/ the elbows. worked for me. good gains, less pain, and most importantly, no injuries. guess its the nature of the beast, steals your water so it hurts the joints but thats what makes you look so hard. still love it though! it just a little pain. good luck bro!
 
there is more to it that winny ruining your joints......winny lowers natural test levels therefore lowers the amount of estrogen aromitized from the test....estrogen makes you soft and it also keeps fluid in your joints also stanozolol is very similar to dht and androgrens can make your bones and joints harden which you would feel as stiffness...
 
gtaman said:
Winny KILLS my joints, especially problem areas like the shoulder. No thanks, I say.

Q. Why did Donovan Bailey snap his achilles in light warmups for pickup basketball?
A. Winny

It's fun for awhile, but I believe it can catch up to you.

WTF is this all about?! I live in Austin, TX. Bailey used to train down here with his track coach and I absolutelyfucking guarandamtee you that Donovan NEVER used winny or any other type of gear for that matter.
 
Baxter said:


WTF is this all about?! I live in Austin, TX. Bailey used to train down here with his track coach and I absolutelyfucking guarandamtee you that Donovan NEVER used winny or any other type of gear for that matter.

Oh, so you know Donovan or his coach personally? please elaborate.


Also, am I the only guy who noticed the second poster did test. HALO for his first cycle, lol :p
 
Uhhh. You're getting Donovan Bailey confused with the other Canadian sprinter, Ben Johnson. It was Ben that got busted for Winny (aka stanozolol) not Donovan.
 
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bjtheman said:


??? A winny/dbol cycle!! I'm suprised your liver is still in your body? :rolleyes:

i know 50mg Db & 50mg winny ED, i ran it for 8 weeks before my elbows gave out. threw in a little sust too - but i can't take sust. i have some type of alergic reaction to it - way beyond just the ba... omna seems OK.
 
GH instead

ClenAche said:
Graffix,
definitely think it was the winny. of course, in the past, from time to time ive had some sore joints--like sore elbows from going too heavy on overhead dumbells, but it was always temporary and related to my ego by going too heavy. when i backed off the weight--no more probs. i dont go heavy anymore and i didnt get all that strong on the winny, but then again, i dont train for strength anymore. i just use a reasonable weight and go real slow and winny really dried out my knees, elbows, and my rt wrist. its been 2 mos since my last shot and my joints are just starting to feel a little better--another reason im sure its the winny. in your case, id guess its the winny. u may want to try going lighter and slower to help w/ the elbows. worked for me. good gains, less pain, and most importantly, no injuries. guess its the nature of the beast, steals your water so it hurts the joints but thats what makes you look so hard. still love it though! it just a little pain. good luck bro!

i think i will trade the rest of my winny in on some more omna and GH! i have enough to make the switch now. i just took my first shot of norditropin today, not too sure about using the slin yet...
 
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