winny and slight heart murmur

[jdubbster]

My question is as follows:

I have a slight heart murmer which is virtually undetectable and which by the way I have never once had a problem with. That is I was a participant in baseball , football and basketball throughout all high school and played college and some pro baseball. Since , my baseball career was sidelined as a pitcher due to injury I've been weightlifting for basically 4 years hard! I'd really like to add some solid strength and size by first trying out some oral winstrol ( 50mg) am and later in the some adding some test and clen if this works okay. My concern is that I have a very mild heart murmur that I've never once had a problem with but thought I would ask just to see??? also I'm adhd and have been using concerta throughout elementary all the way to college graduation... Does anyone see this as problematic?? I don't anticipate a problem ; but i would like to see what people think?? thanks guys really excited about starting my first cycle ; what do you think?

 

[ed2005]

My question is as follows:

I have a slight heart murmer which is virtually undetectable and which by the way I have never once had a problem with. That is I was a participant in baseball , football and basketball throughout all high school and played college and some pro baseball. Since , my baseball career was sidelined as a pitcher due to injury I've been weightlifting for basically 4 years hard! I'd really like to add some solid strength and size by first trying out some oral winstrol ( 50mg) am and later in the some adding some test and clen if this works okay. My concern is that I have a very mild heart murmur that I've never once had a problem with but thought I would ask just to see??? also I'm adhd and have been using concerta throughout elementary all the way to college graduation... Does anyone see this as problematic?? I don't anticipate a problem ; but i would like to see what people think?? thanks guys really excited about starting my first cycle ; what do you think?

Jeez, Jdubbster, the only person that can realistically answer this is your Doc.
I know this is probably not the assurance you are looking but you have a medical condition that could well be exasgabated by the use of any drug, not only AAS and most certainly Clen. I can tell you that even Winny doses as 5mg can make your BP shoot up, cause palpatations, mess with lipids and so on, so it's not a drug to be toyed with. Tell your doc what you plan to do and let him advise, do your bloods and monitor you. This is the only way that you can be sure that nothing is going astray.
You owe it to yourself bro and to those nearest and dearest to you to play it safe.
Sorry if it's not the answer you want, only my advice from a medical background.
Cheers
Ed

 

[jdubbster]

Jeez, Jdubbster, the only person that can realistically answer this is your Doc.
I know this is probably not the assurance you are looking but you have a medical condition that could well be exasgabated by the use of any drug, not only AAS and most certainly Clen. I can tell you that even Winny doses as 5mg can make your BP shoot up, cause palpatations, mess with lipids and so on, so it's not a drug to be toyed with. Tell your doc what you plan to do and let him advise, do your bloods and monitor you. This is the only way that you can be sure that nothing is going astray.
You owe it to yourself bro and to those nearest and dearest to you to play it safe.
Sorry if it's not the answer you want, only my advice from a medical background.
Cheers
Ed

Ed,
I appreciate the input and this was definitely not the recourse that I was prospecting to hear about; although I can't tell you that I didn't expect such a response and believe me I would have been on gear a long time ago (I'm only 26) and the murmur is the only reason as to why I haven't gone this route before. Yet , I train so hard I am clearly at my genetic limit for gains. I'm 6-2 ( 205) and 11%body fat. I really want to run the winstrol and continue later in the summer with some test and then I will go from there. I have read about the hld and ldl fluctuation and bp from some of the drugs. I am going to run the winstrol in about two weeks; Any suggestions? wish me luck bro

 

[The Godfather]

I cant answer your question for gear, but I also have a slight murmur and all I can say is stay away from thermogenics. Especially ephedra, that stuff would always intensify my problem

 

[azul]

All I can say is: go see a doctor.

I did some research on this issue a while ago for a friend, and though it doesn't seem to be a serious issue, it's still best to talk to your doctor about it.

 

[jdubbster]

All I can say is: go see a doctor.

I did some research on this issue a while ago for a friend, and though it doesn't seem to be a serious issue, it's still best to talk to your doctor about it.

Thanks guys .. Some solid advice... The murmur is virtually undetectable ,I've taken ephedra for years and ripped force as well never once had a problem . My doctors cannot even tell that I have one unless I let them know so I'm guessing that I'm pretty solid. I do cardio and have run miles and poles for baseball while in the marlins organiztion and got by no problem that is always been in good shape. Thanks bros starting my cycle next week; wish me luck