Will start cycle in 5-10 days!

[Metallica]

Perhaps you read my other thread that was posted a few days ago. If not ill recap. Ive never juiced before. Im 6' 275. 20 years old. Looking to walk on and play defensive tackle next fall. i have been lifting since i was 13 non-stop. Im looking to drop some body-fat and make some strength gains. After many hours of reading what yall big guys have been saying, here is my basic plan:

Cycle: Fina
weeks 1-3- 75 mg EOD
weeks 3-6- 75 mg ED or 150 mg EOD
weeks 7-8- Chlomid Therapy and Maca


Workout:
12-15 sets per bodypart with about 2 minutes rest between sets. Out of the gym in under an hour. Oh and should i say i will lifting with unmatched intensity!

Split is:
Monday-shoulders
Tues- back
Wed-chest
thursday-legs
friday-arms

Diet:
around 4000 calories a day. low carbs, especially towards the end of the day. 350+ grams of protein a day spaced out over 6 to 7 meals a day. i will be eating very clean on my main courses and avoiding any types of junk, however im not going to worry about fats from peanut butter, ect. Also will be taking in at least a gallon of water a day


Dietary Supplements:

Whey protein between meals and after workout
Multi-viatamin
Anti-oxident
Milk Thistle
Cranberry Juice
Maca (wait to use with chlomid)
and Glucosamine Sulfate (hopes that spelled right) for my joints

Well guys i think thats about it. Id like to see if yall have any suggestions for me. If so id love to hear them. I plan on laying off juice for a long long time so i want to make this cycle worth my while. Thanks and get Big!!

 

[Metallica]

How does it sound??

 

[Intrigue]

Sounds like a good plan... If you are looking to drop some fat, and gain strength, I would say Fina is the right way to go. You are going to be shut down pretty hard though, without some sort of test in there... Just a heads up. Might want a day or two of rest within the week, as opposed to 5 days straight, 2 off.

-I

 

[2Thick]

Oh my God! You are going to be a bad boyfriend for about 10 weeks. You will lose use your your manhood and be a little more "on-edge".

Otherwise, the cycle looks fine, although I would recommend proviron after the clomid to restore you erections and sexual appetite.

 

[adoniscomplex]

6 weeks of fina and only two weeks of clomid?

I don't think that is very wise.
however,

Once the two weeks of clomid is over you WILL get to experience what it is like to have NO test flowing through your body.

Believe you me, as I'm sure others will agree with me who have evperienced it,

no test is one of the worst feelings you will EVER have in your life!

I'm talkin' clynical depression along with extreme larthagy until your boys kick back in.

I did an 8 week cycle of fina, with a full month of clomid afterwords, and still was shut down for another full month!

Clomid is cheap bro, and easy to get, hit it for AT LEAST a month after a fina cycle.

Other than that, cycle looks great! You will be one huge motherfu*ker by the time you finish.
Good luck!

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

How does it sound??

Well honestly, I think you need to change a few things. Namely up the dose, run 75mg ED and 50mg winny ED for the whole time with 250mg test (cyp or enathate) every 5-7 days till the 5th week. Then clomid longer too (a month is great) for sure like adonis said.

The reason I say this is that you are a big guy, a very big guy. I help I guy very similar to you in size, goals, etc... He was also a football player. Wanted to do a consevative cycle (about 500mg a week of gear total), even though I encouraged him to bump up the doses. It was a big disappointment, he didn't get much out of it, and he ran his for longer. The reason for the winny, it will make help make you stronger, faster, and not make you hold water, and help with fat burning. Works great with tren, and is a popular "atheletic" drug too (for those reasons). The test is to keep you dick working and bump up the weekly total to over a gram, where I think you need to be to see good results.

This is just my opinion, take it or leave it. But if you don't plan on juicing all the time, you really need to make this cycle good.

 

[Metallica]

2thick: what did you mean from your comment "Oh my God! You are going to be a bad boyfriend for about 10 weeks. You will lose use your your manhood and be a little more "on-edge". ????

adoniscomplex : i appreciate your advice. i think i will extend the chlomid like you said. ill try and control the feelings of depression and......


Dr.RobertBanner: i appreciate your advice. i was wondering though, dont you think it would be smart to start with 75mg EOD and see what kinda results i get the 1st week or 2 and then see how much if any do i need to increase by?? ive never done anything in my life. i have no clue what to expect. My body has responded to everything ive ever given it. i get drunk off a 6-pack when i drink. and also from what i have gathered from others, its more diet than anything. I thought that someone of my size would just need something to help keep the weight on while i shred bodyfat. thanks

Hey guys appreciate yalls responses!!!

 

[projection]

Clomid is cheap bro, and easy to get, hit it for AT LEAST a month after a fina cycle.

Other than that, cycle looks great! You will be one huge motherfu*ker by the time you finish.
Good luck!

adoniscomplex --

Im curious the dosage if running clomid for a month. Ill be starting clomid in two weeks and was going to run the typical 300mg day 1, 100mg days 2-10, 50mg days 11-20. So are you saying just continue like 50mg a day for another week or so? I have plenty so would like to use it the best way possible.

 

[horsePOWER]

well im not speaking for him, but by "bad boyfriend" i think he means that the fina will shut down your sexual desires and erection abilities, so to speak. add some test in there and look out. you'll be banging your lady to a nub. (or so thats how it works with me)

and the second part. i dont think you'll see much from the tren during the first week and maybe even the second week. regardless of 75mg or 100mg / ED or EOD. takes a while to kick in. id say run it ED for the first two weeks and then try to assess your dosage.

 

[Metallica]

if i do my cycle as planned, what kinda gains can i expect with the diet i am on?? also will i have a harder or easier time falling asleep??

 

[projection]

Fina for me took about three weeks to kick in and its a very unique compound. You get hard and lean and you think thats about it until every week your throwing up huge amounts of weight. Fina does not shut down everybody or kill sex drive. Fina, even before I started it with test made me insanely horny all the time.
I would still throw in at least 250-500mg of test a week, the two really compliment eachother.

 

[Metallica]

bump

 

[adoniscomplex]

Run the clomid like this:

Day 1 - 300mg in divided doses.

Days 2-10 ....100mg ED

Days 11-20....50mg ED

Days 21-40....50mg EOD

I ONLY run clomid this long after a cycle containing fina.

All others I have done, the standard one month therapy works fine.

Run the clomid until you FEEL your natural test kick back in,
I can't speak for wveryone, but when my boys start back up again, it happens all at once, over about a 24-48hr period.

What i'm saying is, don't THINK your test levels are back up to normal...KNOW they are back. I can always tell. (Except that time I only ran the clomid for one month after my fina cycle)

Oh yea, FINA DICK SUCKS!

Run test, or don't plan on having sex during or immediately after your cycle.

 

[Metallica]

thanks bro, ill do it

 

[adoniscomplex]

Good shot!

You won't be sorry!

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

if i do my cycle as planned, what kinda gains can i expect with the diet i am on?? also will i have a harder or easier time falling asleep??

Gains are immpossilbe to predict, too many variables and unknowns.

I have a harder time sleeping while "on".

 

[rottweiler75]

another thing u might want to trying a supplement like a transdermal 4-AD instead of adding test about a hour or two before you want to have sex. This could easilly spike test levels for hrs to get johnny up. personally I hate running test it gives me the worst side effects.
my .02

 

[2Thick]

2thick: what did you mean from your comment "Oh my God! You are going to be a bad boyfriend for about 10 weeks. You will lose use your your manhood and be a little more "on-edge". ????

Fina supresses your libido. You might not feel like having sex and/or you might not be able to get it up.

Fina also reduces your patience in some people.

 

[Metallica]

andro doesnt sound like a bad idea. ill give it a shot

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

Fina supresses your libido. You might not feel like having sex and/or you might not be able to get it up.

Fina also reduces your patience in some people.

I think this is true only if you get too little estrogen, on test/tren I was the horniest I've ever been in my life.

Sometimes tren can make you a tad hot head, but I think it's easy to control. If you don't have a bad temper now, and can control your emotions, tren shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Japanese machine]

Fina makes me sweat; and i mean alot, lol. which inturn makes me very on edge. I was wearing T-shirts in the winter during a fina run. i constanly got "cold sweats"

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

Fina makes me sweat; and i mean alot, lol. which inturn makes me very on edge. I was wearing T-shirts in the winter during a fina run. i constanly got "cold sweats"

try fina, dnp, t3 and nyc

although I don't sweat as bad on dnp as most