Why You Shouldnt Be Taking GH

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

I know i know, but i wanted to post some articles with all their references to see if there is any truth to the 'speeds up you life line' threat.
if any1 has access to sports medcine journals or anything listed below please let me know. Otherwise, they are just a good read...
Let the copy and paste begin....

GROWTH HORMONE AND LONGEVITY
"Many competitive athletes pump themselves full of growth hormone because they think that it will make them stronger. Six years ago, a study from the University of Wisconsin appeared to show that growth hormone makes older men more muscular, less fat and best of all more sexual. More recent reports show that growth hormone does none of these (1,2,3) and may even shorten your life.

When something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. A recent report from the University of North Dakota (4) shows that mice/who are dwarfs because they lack growth hormone/ live one and a half times as long as mice whose bodies produce that hormone. Other studies show that short men live 5 years longer than their taller countrymen and that smaller breeds of dogs and horses live longer also. Taking large doses of growth hormone is associated with arthritis, fluid retention and a type of finger pain called carpal tunnel syndrome. Some men who take growth hormone develop large breasts.

As men age, they lose their strength, male assertiveness and much of their sexuality. Growth hormone will not help them but taking extra testosterone will. From age 50 to 70, the average man's blood level of testosterone drops by more than 40%. Injections and skin patches of testosterone can correct this. However, testosterone can cause an existing prostate cancer to spread through the body, so all men should get their prostates checked by a urologist, an ultrasound of the prostate and a blood test called PSA before they consider taking testosterone.

By Gabe Mirkin, M.D., for CBS Radio News

1) JAMA October 13, 1993

2) Clin Endocrinology Oct,93; 39(4): 417-425.

3) Taaffe DR, Jin IH, Vu TH, Hoffman AR, Marcus R. Lack of the effect of recombinant human growth hormone (GH) on muscle morphology and GH-insulin-like growth factor expression in resistance trained elderly men. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism. 1996 (Jan); 81(1): 421-425. (Growth hormone is produced by the same cells in your brain that also produce two other hormones called prolactin and thyroid stimulating hormone.)

4) Brown-Borg H. Nature November, 1996 "

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

GROWTH HORMONE AND MUSCLE STRENGTH

"A study from Winnipeg reviews the scientific literature and finds that there is no controlled data to show that growth hormone helps make athletes stronger. Thousands of athletes in many sports spend millions of dollars on growth hormone and growth hormone promoters in the hope that it will help them grow larger muscles, become stronger and therefore be better athletes.

Growth hormone is a protein that is destroyed in the stomach, so it can only be given by injection, and growth hormone injections can only be given legally by prescription, so most of the advertised products are growth hormone releasers. After you eat, blood levels of growth hormone rise. After eating protein, blood levels rise even higher. So any food can be sold as a growth hormone releaser and many growth hormone releasers are nothing but protein from soybeans, tuna or milk.

Does exogenous growth hormone improve athletic performance? Clinical Journal of Sport Medicine, 2002, Vol 12, Iss 4, pp 250-253. H Dean. Dean H, Childrens Hosp Winnipeg, Dept Pediat & Child Hlth, Sect Pediat Endocrinol, FE 319-685 William Ave, Winnipeg, MB R3E 0Z2, CANADA"

 

[DIVISION]

Many competitive athletes pump themselves full of growth hormone because they think that it will make them stronger. Six years ago, a study from the University of Wisconsin appeared to show that growth hormone makes older men more muscular, less fat and best of all more sexual. More recent reports show that growth hormone does none of these (1,2,3) and may even shorten your life.

When something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. A recent report from the University of North Dakota (4) shows that mice/who are dwarfs because they lack growth hormone/ live one and a half times as long as mice whose bodies produce that hormone. Other studies show that short men live 5 years longer than their taller countrymen and that smaller breeds of dogs and horses live longer also. Taking large doses of growth hormone is associated with arthritis, fluid retention and a type of finger pain called carpal tunnel syndrome. Some men who take growth hormone develop large breasts.

As men age, they lose their strength, male assertiveness and much of their sexuality. Growth hormone will not help them but taking extra testosterone will. From age 50 to 70, the average man's blood level of testosterone drops by more than 40%. Injections and skin patches of testosterone can correct this. However, testosterone can cause an existing prostate cancer to spread through the body, so all men should get their prostates checked by a urologist, an ultrasound of the prostate and a blood test called PSA before they consider taking testosterone.

People have been trying to punch holes in the GH theory for ages. I think they are full 'o' shit. Reasonable GH use (2-4IU daily) will not cause those sides.....it's when pros start pumping the shit non-stop that they get the GI growth, carpal tunnel issues, and deformities of the jaw, extremities etc.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

Another article states that (im just summing it up) GH [/I]releasers are nothing more than food in a bottle that contains aminoacid proteins and some carbs to shoot up your nose! Can you belive that, just food!!

 

[awittyusername]

Damn, CLOMIDCLOWN. I'm starting my GH this week. I was going to Pm you anyways about my last lab results.

 

[DIVISION]

Another article states that (im just summing it up) GH [/I]releasers are nothing more than food in a bottle that contains aminoacid proteins and some carbs to shoot up your nose! Can you belive that, just food!!

ClomidKid, you know better than to even waste you the brainpower to read these bogus anti-GH studies.

Most studies like this can only draw inferences, not conclusions, thereby making them pretty much useless.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Don't believe any of this shit. GH works. It is as close to a miracle as there is out there. But, you have to bust your ass to get the max effect. I have used GH and many AAS compounds. I will say GH is not my favorite but close. GH, deca and winnie is THE best combo imo. Now that is just based on my personal goals and preference which is to be lean and have decent size. My goal is pussy. Now, I am married and I don't cheat on my wife so the pussy I'm after is always close by. But I know when I have done this combo my wife has said I look my best, she can't keep her hands off me and she has told me her friends ask what it's like to have sex w/ someone with such a great body. That is a huge ego boost for me because I look at some of the guys in my gym and they are HUGE and some are pretty ripped. It's all a matter of preference. I'm 5'9" 185 and about 8% bf and I stay that way at least 9 months out of the year and never go above 11 or 12%. I would not have gotten there w/o GH. One more thing, I have never felt better than when I'm on GH. I sleep great, have a great outlook on life in general and look forward to every workout. My advice, get on the GH but just don't take it alone as that's a waste of alot of $. My last comment, screw the GH releasers. They don't do shit. If you're on a budget spend what you would on releasers on some test, at least you'll get some results and not waste your money. Just my 2cents.

 

[DIVISION]

Don't believe any of this shit. GH works. It is as close to a miracle as there is out there. But, you have to bust your ass to get the max effect. I have used GH and many AAS compounds. I will say GH is not my favorite but close. GH, deca and winnie is THE best combo imo. Now that is just based on my personal goals and preference which is to be lean and have decent size. My goal is pussy. Now, I am married and I don't cheat on my wife so the pussy I'm after is always close by. But I know when I have done this combo my wife has said I look my best, she can't keep her hands off me and she has told me her friends ask what it's like to have sex w/ someone with such a great body. That is a huge ego boost for me because I look at some of the guys in my gym and they are HUGE and some are pretty ripped. It's all a matter of preference. I'm 5'9" 185 and about 8% bf and I stay that way at least 9 months out of the year and never go above 11 or 12%. I would not have gotten there w/o GH. One more thing, I have never felt better than when I'm on GH. I sleep great, have a great outlook on life in general and look forward to every workout. My advice, get on the GH but just don't take it alone as that's a waste of alot of $. My last comment, screw the GH releasers. They don't do shit. If you're on a budget spend what you would on releasers on some test, at least you'll get some results and not waste your money. Just my 2cents.

I agree with the BTS..

This study is twisted.

DIV

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

My goal is pussy

lol but true!

DIVISION- im with you, i just wanted to get some sort of debate going. I think the anecdotal evidence of results is overwhelming. However, i thought that the statement that normal rats died earrlier than dwarf rats is somewhat interesting.

K to all!

 

[DIVISION]

My goal is pussy.

That's a very lofty goal.

I'm with you on this.

DIV

 

[georgie24]

Don't believe any of this shit. GH works. It is as close to a miracle as there is out there. But, you have to bust your ass to get the max effect. I have used GH and many AAS compounds. I will say GH is not my favorite but close. GH, deca and winnie is THE best combo imo. Now that is just based on my personal goals and preference which is to be lean and have decent size. My goal is pussy. Now, I am married and I don't cheat on my wife so the pussy I'm after is always close by. But I know when I have done this combo my wife has said I look my best, she can't keep her hands off me and she has told me her friends ask what it's like to have sex w/ someone with such a great body. That is a huge ego boost for me because I look at some of the guys in my gym and they are HUGE and some are pretty ripped. It's all a matter of preference. I'm 5'9" 185 and about 8% bf and I stay that way at least 9 months out of the year and never go above 11 or 12%. I would not have gotten there w/o GH. One more thing, I have never felt better than when I'm on GH. I sleep great, have a great outlook on life in general and look forward to every workout. My advice, get on the GH but just don't take it alone as that's a waste of alot of $. My last comment, screw the GH releasers. They don't do shit. If you're on a budget spend what you would on releasers on some test, at least you'll get some results and not waste your money. Just my 2cents.

thanks for sharing your experience...ill be on npp/winny very soon and might try hgh if budget is right

 

[x_muscle]

i wouldnt miss with Gh myself unless i was above 40, only adantage i can see from test is creating new muscle cells.

 

[awittyusername]

Don't believe any of this shit. GH works. It is as close to a miracle as there is out there. But, you have to bust your ass to get the max effect. I have used GH and many AAS compounds. I will say GH is not my favorite but close. GH, deca and winnie is THE best combo imo. Now that is just based on my personal goals and preference which is to be lean and have decent size. My goal is pussy. Now, I am married and I don't cheat on my wife so the pussy I'm after is always close by. But I know when I have done this combo my wife has said I look my best, she can't keep her hands off me and she has told me her friends ask what it's like to have sex w/ someone with such a great body. That is a huge ego boost for me because I look at some of the guys in my gym and they are HUGE and some are pretty ripped. It's all a matter of preference. I'm 5'9" 185 and about 8% bf and I stay that way at least 9 months out of the year and never go above 11 or 12%. I would not have gotten there w/o GH. One more thing, I have never felt better than when I'm on GH. I sleep great, have a great outlook on life in general and look forward to every workout. My advice, get on the GH but just don't take it alone as that's a waste of alot of $. My last comment, screw the GH releasers. They don't do shit. If you're on a budget spend what you would on releasers on some test, at least you'll get some results and not waste your money. Just my 2cents.

Great post bro. It looks like we have the same goals. lol

How much GH were you using and how long? I'm starting a low dose and hopefully running it forever.

 

[georgie24]

awitty- are you getting scripted??

 

[awittyusername]

awitty- are you getting scripted??

Yes, Dr. just gave me the OK. So, I hope to get started this week. Its expensive and I don't think my ins will cover it. But, I think I have to change Ins Co's anyway.

 

[georgie24]

did they have to do blood work and shit? or did you just come out and say " i need gh therapy" ??

 

[shortstack]

GH is tha shit, my insurance pays 4 it and i will be on it 4-ever!!
ill let you guys know how it ends up, when im 105yrs old lol

 

[HGH man]

I've been on HGH for 3 years and I can say I'm amazed by all the things that have happened to me. It has helped me loss BF,put on muscle like nothing before has,made my sex life incredible,improved my skins ability to be compared only to someone half my age,lowered my BP, reversed osteoperosis ,improved my sleep. That along with Test Enthanate made me unbelieveable. In 86 I was found to have a pituitary tumor . I was put on a variaty of meds and in 2001 my endo put me on HGH (4ius a day) and I am just amazed by the results. The veterans hospital does pay for it too as I'm a vet. Upjohn/Somatropin

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

HGH Man, 11%bf in your middle 50's? That is an inspiration for sure!

AWitty I take a pretty light dose of 3 IU's per day. 5 on, 2 off. That is what works for me and others may give you different advice.

 

[dreath]

Thats the first negative study i have read on hgh! Don't let them fool you. there are hundreds of positive studies for hgh.

 

[poantrex]

GH has some negative drawbacks. Mainly, it causes very signifigant hyperglycemia (which can lead to insulin resistance or adult onset diabetes), can induce hyperthyroidism (because it signifigantly raises free t3 levels), causes signifigant edema, and worst of all...

Like all exogenous hormones it can suppress natural production. Many people believe that GH doesn't cause suppression but there are at least 5 studies on NiH showing suppression in younger individuals taking exo-HGH. So if you start taking it, you may have to take it for life.