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R/Tman

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ok, people say i am doing to much gear and to many mgs

i want to know the best way to get the most out of a cycle using, fina, test enth and eq, i want to make sure i run the eq long enough to get the best results and i heard if u run test lowe u can run for a while, which u can get better gains, can i get some help now
 
No matter who you talk to your going to get a myriad of responses ranging from mild to wild. You will never know which advice was best cause you can only do your first cycle once and you will never know how other cycles would have faired given the same conditions. What I would advise is instead of looking for someone to tell you "this is best" is to simply read until you can make your own educated decision.
 
I am assuming you are new to this....

IMO Fina/Test or EQ/Test is just fine while Fina/EQ/Test is overkill and so is 1800mg EW. You need to run everything that you can get your hands on and you don't need to fill the syring to 5ml just becuase it has a marker for that amount.

People seem convinced that more is better and that they will reach their goals faster if they just pile on the gear. It doesn't work that way. You can't cram 3 cycles worth of gear into a single cycle and expect to get 3 cycles worth of results. You can, however, get three cycles worth of sides that way...
 
State your stats and your goals and it will be easier for people to give you useful information.
 
so fina, test an eq all at once is to much? i heard it was suppose to be a good cycle, since eq and fina give good quality muscles and u always need test
 
You don't always need test at all. Fina is very androgenic and not a good idea for your first cycle. Try this, and keep in mind it is still a strong first cycle.

Week 1-12 400mg eq/week
Week 1-10 300mg test enth/week
 
Good Sample Cycle for newbie:

500 mg Enanthate x 10 weeks.

Good sample cycle for intermediate

500 mg enanthate x 10 weeks
250-350 mg Fina/week x weeks 7-12

NFG
 
There have been many posts about the use of AAS and there benifits, predictions of growth,weight gains, ect....

The bottom line is that you diet, training and R&R, make up about 90% of a good cycle. You can use smaller amount of gear and theroretically gain alot of quality weight!

If you eat right, train right, and get plenty of rest, you will gain better off of less gear than if you add shit loads of gear and don't eat, work and rest correctly.

Now you say..."I'll train, eat and rest correctly" OK Fine! You still don't need 1800mg of gear EW.
If you already have all of that gear, then split it in a couple of cycles. Gain quality mass on each one of the cycles and you will retain better gains on each one and your body will thank you later.
 
This is really becoming an ongoing saga.

R/Tman, the reason you are getting so many people assuming you are a newbie is because you keep asking so many questions about this cycle. I know you want perfection, but just find one you are happy with and give it a try. Then you will know what you liked or not for the next time. It is a learning process that leads people to different conclusions. No one is going to be able to tell you what is best for you. Just decide and then go with it. Then you can let us know every so often how it is going.
 
1 more thing....knowledgable vets and bro's have told you from your early threads that you were using too much gear...too many chemicals ect...

You have changed up from 3600mg's EW in you early post's to 1800mg EW. Listen to these guys...cut it in 1/2 again and eat right and you'll be good to go!

It don't matter if you have already done 20 cycles ( I think you said 3)...at your age (21yrs, correct?) 400mg to 800mg with the correct gear will be great if you are good to go on everything else. Food, training and R&R
 
ok, u say 800mg is enough for me, then how can i sue test enth an eq, i thought eq need to be at lease 400-600mg, that dont leave to much room for test
 
You've already done three cycles and are less knowledgeable than someone who has not even done their first. Maybe you should take your time researching the drugs you want to take so you dont come across as someone who just thinks sticking yourself with a needle will build the ultimate physique.
 
You should keep things simple I think. Find two or three drugs that just click for you, say 2 injectables and one oral, and learn them well. Find the minimum effective dosages that will keep you briskly growing over a few months span at a time, reliably. The effective doses will climb over time anyway since you will be trying to add mass to an already huge frame at that time. Like adding exercises, only try a new drug for your arsenal occasionally, as needed, ideally trying it by itself to really know it. That's why it's a learning process, just like learning how to train and eat. Say you are going to "try EQ", then ask people, "what is the best way to do that? What might I expect?" Are you new to EQ, fina, both or neither? I assume you've done test before . . .
 
i think you should do some more research and searching on your own. everytime i check this board, you have a new thread going about your next cycle idea
 
Yo didn't you guys see the pics he posted last week and all the posts he's had about this cycle. He's not just beginning. bro I saw your pics and I think if I remember correctly your last cycle was 750mgs of test with something else right??? I don't see anything wrong with your doseages really. Maybe drop test froma gram a week to 750. Run 500mg of EQ, and fina at 75 edor 100mg eod for the last 7-8 weeks. If I remember correctlyyou also wantedo do a 12 weeker.

test 750mg 1-12.......nothing wrong with a gram though IMO
eq 500mg1-12
fina 75mg ed 7-14
test prop 100mg ed or eod you make the choice weeks 13-15
 
Forget about everybody else's opinion of "whats the best blah" and figure out what works best for YOU.
 
I gained 27lb using fina at 75mg eod and 200mg week test and 50mg ippp winny ed and this was in 7 weeks and was 3rd cycle, on 4th now 600mg week deca 500mg week test half way through and up 25lb and below 10%

I think you need to rethink your diet and be eating at least 4,500 calories or stay away from the juice
 
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For the vets:

Isn't 100mg ed of fina too much? What would you recommend total fina per week if it being combined with 500mg test and 400mg EQ?

To help him with his question:
500mg test
400 mg EQ
??? fina
 
Anakin said:
For the vets:

Isn't 100mg ed of fina too much? What would you recommend total fina per week if it being combined with 500mg test and 400mg EQ?

To help him with his question:
500mg test
400 mg EQ
??? fina
Click to expand...

That's a shitload of juice for someone who's still newbie enough (not you specifically) to ask for dosage info. i would go:

week 1-12 400mg EQ EW
week 1-6 75mg Fina EOD
week 1-6 250mg test EW
week 7-12 500mg test EW

That's 900mg/week.
 
Dial_tone said:


That's a shitload of juice for someone who's still newbie enough (not you specifically) to ask for dosage info. i would go:

week 1-12 400mg EQ EW
week 1-6 75mg Fina EOD
week 1-6 250mg test EW
week 7-12 500mg test EW

That's 900mg/week.
Click to expand...



now that looks right, never underestimatet the power of fina! and good food of course! r/t man
 
ok thanks, my last cycle over the summer i did fina at 75mg ED, and did very weel with it, can i get away doing it just like that again? i mean with the same dossage? and whats the mim amount of Eq u need to do to get it to work its magic
 
R/T I asked Dialtone that question for your benefit, now there's your cycle. He has a lot of experience, you don't need to double dosages every cycle.
 
ok, thanks alot, but i have neve done as low as 250mg test a week, if i do it now, will i still gain from that
 
Where the fuck do people get this idea that your body somehow magically builds up resistance to a drug the first fucking time you use it? I'm going to start shooting people who say this.
 
i know, but i have always done more than 250, i have done 500 before, and i was going to do it this time, but 250 just seems lower than what u tell someone to do on ther first cycle
 
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