Why doesn't the amount of Test make a difference

[Grainger]

Why doesn't the amount of Test that you use during a cycle affect how long before you start using clomid. I mean...if I am using 2000 mg / week vs. 500 mgs per week of enth. 3 weeks after my last shot I am going to have different amounts of test in my system.

What am I missing here?

BTW, bonus question:
Can I start using Clomid a day after taking winny because of the short half life?

I assume that Enthate is a 3 week ester...

 

[JG1]

Why doesn't the amount of Test that you use during a cycle affect how long before you start using clomid. I mean...if I am using 2000 mg / week vs. 500 mgs per week of enth. 3 weeks after my last shot I am going to have different amounts of test in my system.

What am I missing here?

BTW, bonus question:
Can I start using Clomid a day after taking winny because of the short half life?

I assume that Enthate is a 3 week ester...

Its not the amount of test you use that determins when to start on clomid, its the ester. If you use 500mg/week or 2g/week of Cyp or Enth, it will still take two weeks for the androgen levels in your blood to fall enough so you can start clomid therpay. BTW, you can start clomid two weeks after your last shot of enth, you don't have to wait 3 weeks.

Yeah, you can start using winny the day or two after the last injection.

 

[decem]

actually.. i hope zyg comes in here.. or anyone else whose knowledgable.. but i'm pretty sure that the dosage does indeed make a difference on how long it takes everything to deesterfy...

 

[The Shadow]

Dosage will make a difference.

1000 mg on last shot will remain in the system a lot longer than 500 mg will. Half-life of 5 days:

1000 mg - after 5 days 500 mg left - after 10 days 250 left
500 mg - after 5 days - 250 mg - after 10 days - 125 mg left

 

[JG1]

I stand corrected

 

[JG1]

One thing though. Dosage doesn't effect when you can start on clomid does it? For Cyp & Enth you can start on clomid two weeks after your last shot. I really didn't think it matterd how large the dose of Test was (obviuosly you'd get a larger spike with a higher dose), by the two week mark androgen levels should be low enough to start clomid?

 

[decem]

One thing though. Dosage doesn't effect when you can start on clomid does it? For Cyp & Enth you can start on clomid two weeks after your last shot. I really didn't think it matterd how large the dose of Test was (obviuosly you'd get a larger spike with a higher dose), by the two week mark androgen levels should be low enough to start clomid?

nuther good question.. i'd think it would depend on the dosage..

who the hell has the equation to figure out the amounts of desterfied aas in one's system.. according to dosage and ester?

someone does.. zyg? panerai?

 

[Grainger]

the reason I asked is because I was on 500 a week and my gains have been shit this cycle. I am at week 6 -7 so I just bumped it up to 750 and will try that for a few weeks.

I really expected a lot more from my cycle. Everyone talked about how great ICN is and it hasn't been all that great if you ask me.

Wondering when I should start clomid. I am running Winny and deca now too. I was going to stop Test and Deca and run just winny for an extra 3 weeks alone...then start the clomid to try and max on the gains.