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bigmouth2006

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test i have always used in it in every cycle no matter what my goals were

just curious to see how many of you guys don't use test as a base to every cycle
 
bigmouth2006 said:
test i have always used in it in every cycle no matter what my goals were

just curious to see how many of you guys don't use test as a base to every cycle
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seriously bro - a TON of guys don't use test as a base..............simple as that
 
I don't use Test with Tren most of the time..... Well, that's not TOTALLY true..... I'll shoot a small amount of Prop if my sex drive drops out, but that's about it..... I've heard that using an aromatizing drug like Test with Tren can make Tren gyno more probable..... Not sure if it's true, and that's actually not the biggest reason I don't use it with Tren.... When I'm using Tren, I don't want water retention, so I keep Test to a minimum.....

rizz
 
28 and haven't touched test. Dbol only for me and so far i feel great-look good and more importantly i can bang like an uzi! Diet is 100% more important than aas itself. Once i learned how to diet correctly i use very little and it is for strength gains when i hit a wall!
 
Prizz said:
I don't use Test with Tren most of the time..... Well, that's not TOTALLY true..... I'll shoot a small amount of Prop if my sex drive drops out, but that's about it..... I've heard that using an aromatizing drug like Test with Tren can make Tren gyno more probable..... Not sure if it's true, and that's actually not the biggest reason I don't use it with Tren.... When I'm using Tren, I don't want water retention, so I keep Test to a minimum.....

rizz
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that's why use liquidex keeps my water down or i really don't hold water at all
 
ive done a couple deca or dbol only cycles.....never will again tho....im a firm believer that Test belongs in every cycle, whether it be Prop, Enth, Cyp, suspension, or Sust.
 
bigmouth2006 said:
how's the recovery when you don't use test on tren?
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I'd hate to find out! Sounds like using deca without test. Some people say yeah i don't need it then you see them hiding out a few weeks later in a corner somewhere wondering y they feel like shit. Thx god i haven't had any issues!
 
ricorico said:
ive done a couple deca or dbol only cycles.....never will again tho....im a firm believer that Test belongs in every cycle, whether it be Prop, Enth, Cyp, suspension, or Sust.
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that's the way i feel to i think a cycle is not complete without it
 
bigmouth2006 said:
how's the recovery when you don't use test on tren?
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Never had a problem recovering from Tren at all.... Don't really know why, but I tend to recover fast from cycles..... I know it shuts others down hard, but I've never had that problem....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Never had a problem recovering from Tren at all.... Don't really know why, but I tend to recover fast from cycles..... I know it shuts others down hard, but I've never had that problem....

rizz
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i have had a problem recovering from anything i have done,but i have anyways done test in my cycles
 
I've never used Test... done 2 winny only cycles and liked the results on both. I'm currently planning a summer cycle and am seriously considering coming over to the dark side. I just wish human grade wasn't so damn expensive.
 
YankeesMan said:
I've never used Test... done 2 winny only cycles and liked the results on both. I'm currently planning a summer cycle and am seriously considering coming over to the dark side. I just wish human grade wasn't so damn expensive.
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i would trade winny for test anyday i get less sides from test than winny
 
bigmouth2006 said:
i would trade test for winny anyday i get less sides from test than winny
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I'm lucky in that I don't get any sides from winny. However for my summer cycle I'm thinking of either:

Wks 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg/wk (shot twice/wk)

or

Wks 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg /wk (shot twice/wk)
Wks 6-12 Winny 50mg ED

I've been doing tons of research on Test and am very excited to try it. I don't want any water weight... which would be better to keep the water off Arimidex or Femera?
 
YankeesMan said:
I'm lucky in that I don't get any sides from winny. However for my summer cycle I'm thinking of either:

Wks 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg/wk (shot twice/wk)

or

Wks 1-12 Test Cyp 400mg /wk (shot twice/wk)
Wks 6-12 Winny 50mg ED

I've been doing tons of research on Test and am very excited to try it. I don't want any water weight... which would be better to keep the water off Arimidex or Femera?
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liquidex should be fine with that dose of test
 
yes he runs eq 400 and deca 400 a week no test. he never gets a loss of libido or anything. my first cycle was deca 600mg for 12 weeks with winny 50mg ed 8-12. no test at all gained 22lbs of lean mass and no sides. i recovered fine. i then ran tbol without test for 4 weeks which i highly reccomend. tbol boosts the libido and test is not needed as you are barely shut down. i then got cocky about my ability to recover and ran 600 deca with test e 500mg a week, i could not recover from that cycle at all. i finished in january. i never went limp but had no energy, libido, and i could not bust a nut. very frustrating. i ran another pct with hcg clomid and nolva and got some proviron, now i am fine. you don't need test but i would not take deca without it. a year ago i would have but not now. my next cycle is
eq 500mg 1-14 weeks
tbol 50mh ed 1-4 then 60mg ed 4-6
proviron 50mg ed thoughout whole cycle
NO TEST. make sure you have plenty of hcg if you don't want to run test. remember that deca cycles can take longer to get out of your system. i ran pct a week after and was fine for a month then i was hit by the harsh recovery. running pct with hcg later on after a deca cycle is ideal

swordfish151 said:
I always run test...I know LVTitan doesnt run test at all...i think he does deca or EQ for his base...dont remember
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bigmouth2006 said:
you can recover on deca only but can't recover on test and deca umm that's wierd
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yea i don't think i was clear enough bro sorry. it wasn't the test that did it, i think if it had been just test i would have been fine. i just think i ran less test than deca because of my deca only cycle and i wasn't so easy at recovering that time. my point was that i got away with it once but not twice, no deca without test.
 
bruce410 said:
yes he runs eq 400 and deca 400 a week no test. he never gets a loss of libido or anything. my first cycle was deca 600mg for 12 weeks with winny 50mg ed 8-12. no test at all gained 22lbs of lean mass and no sides. i recovered fine. i then ran tbol without test for 4 weeks which i highly reccomend. tbol boosts the libido and test is not needed as you are barely shut down. i then got cocky about my ability to recover and ran 600 deca with test e 500mg a week, i could not recover from that cycle at all. i finished in january. i never went limp but had no energy, libido, and i could not bust a nut. very frustrating. i ran another pct with hcg clomid and nolva and got some proviron, now i am fine. you don't need test but i would not take deca without it. a year ago i would have but not now. my next cycle is
eq 500mg 1-14 weeks
tbol 50mh ed 1-4 then 60mg ed 4-6
proviron 50mg ed thoughout whole cycle
NO TEST. make sure you have plenty of hcg if you don't want to run test. remember that deca cycles can take longer to get out of your system. i ran pct a week after and was fine for a month then i was hit by the harsh recovery. running pct with hcg later on after a deca cycle is ideal
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very good input here!
 
bruce410 said:
yea i don't think i was clear enough bro sorry. it wasn't the test that did it, i think if it had been just test i would have been fine. i just think i ran less test than deca because of my deca only cycle and i wasn't so easy at recovering that time. my point was that i got away with it once but not twice, no deca without test.
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ok that makes sense
 
Never test. Always tren!!! Either alone or with winny(but mostly alone though). I think tren is better than test hands down(for getting and keeping gains). I'm like prizz though; recover very quickly. Thing is, I never get "shut down" by tren and always keep the gains I've made.
 
bigmouth2006 said:
test i have always used in it in every cycle no matter what my goals were

just curious to see how many of you guys don't use test as a base to every cycle
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I always use Test.................
 
bigmouth2006 said:
test i have always used in it in every cycle no matter what my goals were

just curious to see how many of you guys don't use test as a base to every cycle
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I've done tren and winny cycle without using test. i loved it. no sides and recovered great.

Also done EQ and winny cycle without using test. Same thing for this cycle.
 
nickdentist said:
I've done tren and winny cycle without using test. i loved it. no sides and recovered great.

Also done EQ and winny cycle without using test. Same thing for this cycle.
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i might do a cycle without test one day i just hate to waste my time on 2nd thought no i won't
 
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