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Who Has Done A 20 Week Cycle???///?

thewood

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im thinking o doing a 20 week cycle,10 weeks for bulking then 10 weeks for cutting.im gnna use 500 mg eq a week,100 mg test prop a day,75 mg fina a day.this is my second cycle,my first cycle was 500 mg sust 400 mg deca gained 35 pounds,my stats are 5"11,230,high body fat ,about 20 %.who here has done a 20 week cycle?is so ,did u like the results??would u do it again?will i damage myself by doing this??
 
I've been on for about 6 months now and everything is still going smooth. Going off though in about another month. This is my longest cycle by far and im going to stick with longer more moderate doseage cycles as well as longer breaks after from now on as well.


BTW - not recommended for newbies
 
WHAT ARE YOU USING ON THIS CYCLE??IS IT A BULK/CUT CYCLE LIKE MINE??HOW ARE YOUR RESULTS????HOW MANY CYCLES HAVE YOU DONE PREVIOUSLY??
 
I have done 6 previously. First one was 200mg deca a week and winny 50mg mon-wed-fri. Believe it or not I made great gains on this cycle. Then did a eq cycle at 300mg a week for 8 weeks after that one. Also did a deca only cycle at 600mg a week after that one. Then the other 3 I mentioned last year. Also did a half kit of GH just for the hell of it a while back. Didn't do shit. I mean a half kit. I was taking 9iu's eod for 2 weeks. Yeah I was clueless.

For further detail see my Thread I just posted, "7 more amps to go!!!"

I was on 750mg sus with 15mg d-bol ed the first phase of the cycle. I was actually dieting with all these aromatizable drugs. Taking anti's of course. I went from 244 to 216 in a little over 5 weeks with thermogenic supplements and extreme dieting. No cardio. Didn't lose any muscle mass either. No loss in strength but no gain either. I then switched from the d-bol and did 50mg provrion with the sus. Then I dropped the sus dose to 500mg a week. Kicked deca at a few shots in there here and there due to elbow problems. Then a about 6 weeks ago started my first run with fina.
 
thewood said:
hey mike:during the cutting phase u talked about........what was your diet like??

Not for the norm bro. I did it EXTREME. Not something I would even recommend to people. I really just wanted to drop weight fast and just took the juice to maintain my muscle. Had I not been on the anabolics I know I would have lost alot of muscle on this diet.

I ate about 4 times a day. Very small im practically always starving meals!!! Like an example would be meal 1. Isopure shake with 1 cup oatmeal. I definately took extra vitamins and minerals during this phase as well. Thank God it only lasted a few weeks. I then ate normal after this(normal meaning eating like a fuckin pig) and in about 2 weeks went up to about 225 and stayed good at this weight.

Every once in a while I would have a cheat day to stimulate my metabolism and to give me a little anabolic kick and to help reguel my glycogen stores.

Im currently 225 right now at 5'10 with abs when flexed. Im a little bulky right now but I don't care since summer is over already anyway.
 
Well are you keeping the drugs the same for bulking as well as cutting?? Another thing no anti-estrogens?? I would be careful you carry a decent amount of bf already bro the more fat the more aromatization. Fat cells are your estrogen factory's.
 
thewood said:
how many meals a day do u normally eat while cutting??

Well I don't expect to blow up to a big fat ass this winter so next year I plan on eating a good 6-8 meals when I cut. Right now im averaging about 6 meals a day and im quality bulking right now.
 
yea i was gonna keep the same dosages while bulking and cutting.im going to run some liquidex all the way through the cycle.how much liquidex should i run a day??
 
also it seems that when i diet down i lose weight too fast,i was doing 30 min of cardio a day,during my cutting phase ,should i not do any cardio or what??
 
thewood said:
yea i was gonna keep the same dosages while bulking and cutting.im going to run some liquidex all the way through the cycle.how much liquidex should i run a day??

I wouln't advise a cycle this long especially since it's only your second cycle but it's all up to you. It's your body.

This is what I would do though if I were you.

Weeks 1-10 100mg prop ed
Weeks 1-10 500mg eq (bulking phase)

Weeks 11-20 75mg fina ed (cutting phase)
Weeks 11-20 500mg total test a week

Run liquidex at 1mg ed whole way through

Clomid 1 week after last prop shot.
 
thewood said:
also it seems that when i diet down i lose weight too fast,i was doing 30 min of cardio a day,during my cutting phase ,should i not do any cardio or what??

Some people need cardio to lose weight. Plus it's just good for overall health. Anyway did you notice you lost strength during your cutting phase?? If you did lose a good amount then back off on too much cardio as you were losing muscle as well and the cardio could have been causing it. Overtraining in general can cause you to lose muscle mass though and it could have been because you were eating less too. If you lost alot of weight and looked good and didn't lose strength then you were doing shit right.
 
thewood said:
no i didnt lose any strength ,i just felt like i was loosing to much weight,i would lose like 5 pounds a week!

Then all is well... ;)

Sounds like what I went through. Damn I felt like shit though. But after the fat was gone man was it worth it!!!
 
My current cycle started July 4, 2000. I am safely past 20 weeks.

MikePT wrote up a nice cycle there. Do that.
When you are done make sure you have EVERYTHING you need for post cycle because this one will take a long time to recover from. A bag of clomid is not enough. You will need to use 10,000iu of HCG at the 9 and 18 week mark. You will need to use clomid after the test clears but make sure you have dbol. Get some deprynil and bromocriptine as well. If you start to crash post cycle, and you probably will without the dbol then start popping the dbol and deprynil when you get up in the morning. 5mg of dep and 10mg of dbol. Did you get all that?
 
I am doing my first cycle of fina 75mg EOD and Test Enanth 500mg/week for 10 weeks. I am planning and buying for my next two cycles that I plan on running. For the next one, I am going to run fina 125mg EOD, Test Enanth 600mg/week (front-loaded) and possibly EQ for 12-14 weeks. Would I need to run HCG for that cycle?


Gear rocks.

Good thread.:teleport:
 
hey ulter,why do i need the dbol......and when do i start taking it?and at what dosages??what is deprynil and bromocriptine??are they legal??if so,where do i get them from??
 
The deprynil you can get at www.smart-drugs.net. You will have to ask around about the bromo.
When you finish a cycle like that your natural test probably won't come back up for a while even with the clomid and HCG. If it doesn't take 10mg of dbol when you get every morning. That will keep you from crashing. The dep will keep the post cycle blues away.
 
do i just take 1 10,000 amp of hcg at the begging of week 9 and 18??how will i know if my natural test came back or not??and how long do i need to take the dbol??
 
You're making me nervous. Do you know what you're doing here?
HCG is 1000iu/day for ten days.
About 2 weeks AFTER the clomid if you start to feel like complete dog poo and you feel like staying in bed and crying all day. You are crashing. It feels like mono. If you feel that then take the deprynil and then the next morning start the dbol.
 
heheheh dont get nervous,im not starting for ike a month
i hyave never done a 20 week cycle b4 so thats why im confused about the hcg.and also,after my cycle ends,when do i start taking the clomid and at what dosages?heheheh.dont woryy im not about to start until i know everything!and about the dbol,i know 10 mg a day but for how many days??
 
ulter said:
My current cycle started July 4, 2000. I am safely past 20 weeks.

MikePT wrote up a nice cycle there. Do that.
When you are done make sure you have EVERYTHING you need for post cycle because this one will take a long time to recover from. A bag of clomid is not enough. You will need to use 10,000iu of HCG at the 9 and 18 week mark. You will need to use clomid after the test clears but make sure you have dbol. Get some deprynil and bromocriptine as well. If you start to crash post cycle, and you probably will without the dbol then start popping the dbol and deprynil when you get up in the morning. 5mg of dep and 10mg of dbol. Did you get all that?

LMFAO

24 weeks here on Fina. Eq till Jan(thats another 12 weeks),
and then 6 months anavar to recover in the AM.

Total: 60 weeks. A year and a fifth on.

Fonz
 
thewood said:
fonz,is that the cycle your on hehehehehehehe damn!and ulter:did u crash on a 20 week cycle b4?

Yes.

Fonz
 
Ulter or Fonz, how does your chemistry look at the end of a long one? Does your LDL/HDL ratio take a perminent set?
 
Spectre said:
Ulter or Fonz, how does your chemistry look at the end of a long one? Does your LDL/HDL ratio take a perminent set?

Will be posting my blood test results at AF in 2-3 weeks.

Fonz
 
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