Which IP injects are painful...?

[SofaGeorge]

I stopped using IP fina because the pain was awful. My delts would scream for a solid week each shot.

By EXPERIENCE (experience means what you KNOW not what you've READ or HEARD) which IP injectables have been painful for you? (I know some are and some aren't. I'm just trying to figure out which ones are high BA.)

 

[dzuljas]

the "prop enhanced" sustanon 300 he used to make was pretty painful after the shot, it would be sore to the touch for a few days. I am using his sust 250 right now and there is little to no pain

 

[TraxZBT]

suspension/prop combo was killer. Oh yeah the sust 300 left a nice little welt on you. Those days are over, no more IP injectables for me.

 

[dzuljas]

trax, just HOW bad was the suspension/prop? give me some more details.....

 

[Latamier]

I will never do any IP products again. The sust 300 was definately killer and the orals had little to no effect on me either. I would rather pay more $$ for gear that WILL work.

 

[TraxZBT]

trax, just HOW bad was the suspension/prop? give me some more details.....

lets just say I had to throw the stuff out. I couldn't take it anymore. ED and EOD injections with that stuff were torture and it came to the point that I couldn't walk, let alone function, since every injection site had a golfball sized painfull lump.. He might have changed the conc. of BA but I doubt it since its a prop/suspension mix.

 

[slobberknocker]

I used fina and cyp. The fina stung. The cyp wasn't bad at all.

 

[drrman]

all infections are painful, i wouldn't eat an IP aspirin, much less shoot and oil

 

[SofaGeorge]

lets just say I had to throw the stuff out. I couldn't take it anymore. ED and EOD injections with that stuff were torture and it came to the point that I couldn't walk, let alone function, since every injection site had a golfball sized painfull lump.. He might have changed the conc. of BA but I doubt it since its a prop/suspension mix.

I had the same experience with the IP Fina. I had to throw it out. It was so painful it wasn't worth using.

It's interesting that nobody so far has said anything about the IP EQ being painful.

 

[musclebones]

Why would you even think of injecting oils from a dirty country (just look at SARS). His shit is unregulated, no one knows where it comes from, and his whole operation is so shady.

Just looking at his emails when he mispells every other word is pathetic enough. How can he adhere to our accepted standards of cleanliness if he can't read & write english.


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[SofaGeorge]

Why would you even think of injecting oils from a dirty country (just look at SARS). His shit is unregulated, no one knows where it comes from, and his whole operation is so shady.

Just looking at his emails when he mispells every other word is pathetic enough. How can he adhere to our accepted standards of cleanliness if he can't read & write english.


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This is a dead issue that isn't worth reading about.

I posted a question about which injects were painful... not an invite on oppinions on IP quality.

 

[musclebones]

Sorry man you have to expect that shit on this type of thread. "QUALITY.... PAINFUL PRODUCTS" ... ummm opinions on each of em go hand in hand.

 

[Qrios]

Why does he blend in so much ba?
Are his injectables so concentrated?
I know it's used to make the oil solve more mg/ml, but cant you blend in more oil.
It would make sense to have a high concentration when shipping.

 

[georgie24]

his prop/suspension was nothing short of a butchering

 

[galaxy]

Sorry but I throw my IP Eq out . I was doing awesome to with Eq, but I switched from ttokkyo to IP mid cycle and it wasnt worth continuing. I was in constant pain and one irritable bastard..........galaxy

 

[SofaGeorge]

Why does he blend in so much ba?
Are his injectables so concentrated?
I know it's used to make the oil solve more mg/ml, but cant you blend in more oil.
It would make sense to have a high concentration when shipping.

My suspicion is that no one at his shop has ever used his products. Hence, they don't really have a clue about the pain issue... and I don't think he is a manufacturing wizard. Contrary to popular myth he doesn't manufacture. He contracts out to independant labs... then bottles everything inhouse. He is only now becoming aware of how much the BA issue affected his sales... basically because tons of us have thrown his juice away because of the pain. This has prompted him to request a lowering of the BA from his formulator... but since the lab doesn't boot it themselves... I'm curious to see if they are actually following his request for lower BA or simply making the same way they always have.

Hence, the next question is: are people who are currently using IP experiencing pain.

 

[thelegacy]

i always use IP--im on his Rocket Fuel--200mg deca, 200mg enthanate-this is the highest pain stuff ive used from him but its still not bad--ive used his prop/tren mix with little pain........Ive used alot more from him. Usually any IP product thats over 200mg per ml will have soreness because of his BA content--the higher the mg the more pain--sus 300 isnt bad.....what i do is i bake his high mg concentration injectables (usually over 300 mg) for 90 minutes at 225 degrees----i always here about how bad the pain is but ive never really experienced it maybe im just numb everywhere

 

[Wrongun]

I personally do not like the injectables as they caused me pain and i am not convinced of total sterility (if you ever can be)

But my answer is that they all induce pain and so do not use

Wrongun!

 

[SofaGeorge]

I personally do not like the injectables as they caused me pain and i am not convinced of total sterility (if you ever can be)

But my answer is that they all induce pain and so do not use

Wrongun!

Are you saying you have actually used them ALL? If so... please list which ones caused you pain... and how recently.

My curiousity here is which of his current products are using high BA.

So far I'm not seeing pain from recent users.

 

[poantrex]

Most of his newer injectables are painless, except for the obvious stuff like prop/susp.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Most of his newer injectables are painless, except for the obvious stuff like prop/susp.

that's what I seem to be getting from otehr people on the web. He seems to be going with a painless formulation now.

also, have you noticed that customer service is actually friendly and helpful? Obviously somebody new has bought IP.

 

[mrdraco]

I found the Sust 250 and EQ to be fairly painless.

 

[MrRTTB]

The old gear he made was poaifull. The durabolin got me sick of the inflamation. I think I will try his sust and Deca but increase dose as I belieeve it's underdosed.