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manny78

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Let's say you could chose between the Audi 1.8T Quattro, Mercedes Benz C240 or a BMW 325xi. They're all the same price. I must admit I've always liked the Audi for their Quattro system, but since BMW too has the same thing on their "xi" serie then I thought I should consider them too. As for Mercedes they look class, very confortable. It's a different look.
 
If it was me, I would go with the BMW.
 
the Audi 1.8T is underpowered. a nice car, pleasant ride, but slow off the line and generally weak (not the case for the 3.0, but then again, no wonder since it is a 6 instead of 4).

the BMW is nice, but it is gonna cost more than the initial price if you want anything in there, and they cost over time to maintain (Audis are actually relatively decent over time - they are no Honda or Toyota in terms of long lasting and cheap parts, but then again, you aren't getting one of those :))
(also, you are getting the weaker one - you just paying for the name -and if it is a brand new one - the steering is looser and more like a American car in feel than the usual tightness and feel of the road that European cars are known for)

as for Mercedes - I wouldn't go near them ever since they have merged with Chrysler - they are constantly fighting in the engineering dept as to whether they go with the high performance and style of the German engineering, or the cheap ass shit they pull with American cars (although the cheaper decisions help the car be easier and cheaper to maintain due to shared platforms and stock parts).

Anyway, my answer is I'd get a Saab 9-3SE for less money and more performance than any of them :)
(incidentally, Saab is part of GM now and they have the same issues as Mercedes - the difference being there is no fighting, they are owned by them, but they give the engineers more free reign and also absorb some of the new ideas - like their new eingine that is coming out in a few years)
 
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Y_Lifter said:
Honda S2000...

What do you need storage room for ?
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nice car - but you have to run at high RPMs to get any power - all the torque comes at the high end of each gear.
but it looks nice.

if I was gonna spend that money though, I'd get a used M Z3 Coupe or Roadster and then you have real power.
 
True on the High end HP...
It Runs like a High Powered Sewing Machine....

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HappyScrappy said:
the Audi 1.8T is underpowered. a nice car, pleasant ride, but slow off the line and generally weak (not the case for the 3.0, but then again, no wonder since it is a 6 instead of 4).

the BMW is nice, but it is gonna cost more than the initial price if you want anything in there, and they cost over time to maintain (Audis are actually relatively decent over time - they are no Honda or Toyota in terms of long lasting and cheap parts, but then again, you aren't getting one of those :))
(also, you are getting the weaker one - you just paying for the name -and if it is a brand new one - the steering is looser and more like a American car in feel than the usual tightness and feel of the road that European cars are known for)

as for Mercedes - I wouldn't go near them ever since they have merged with Chrysler - they are constantly fighting in the engineering dept as to whether they go with the high performance and style of the German engineering, or the cheap ass shit they pull with American cars (although the cheaper decisions help the car be easier and cheaper to maintain due to shared platforms and stock parts).

Anyway, my answer is I'd get a Saab 9-3SE for less money and more performance than any of them :)
(incidentally, Saab is part of GM now and they have the same issues as Mercedes - the difference being there is no fighting, they are owned by them, but they give the engineers more free reign and also absorb some of the new ideas - like their new eingine that is coming out in a few years)
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Thanks for your advices. What about Volvo then ? I've heard good things about their cars.
 
audi t quattro, one of the best cars out there. i just drove one a couple of months ago...plus that little engine has soooo much potential, rumor has that audi actually had to lower the torque and hp cause it was killing the 2.8...quattro rules
 
if you want high torque - for the HP per L, you can't beat the Saab. they are known for high torque at low HP and a steady curve - which means it out accelerates all the cars on that list - and doesn't get beat until you finally get up into the high end of the rpms (which doesn't happen much unless you are actually racing).

the quattro, while a fun idea, is actually pretty worthless - the VP of my old company drove and Audi S4 - excellent car - but even with the Quattro he still spun out on ice and hit a lamp post.

in reality, if you want better traction, it is the tires, not where the drive is coming from (at least on icey normal roads - different if you are off roading). get Blizzaks (sp?) - those fuckers rule on ice and snow.

as for Volvo, they too have Turbo engines and are very safe, but they are now owned by Ford and I personally have a great distaste for Fords ever since my days of having to push them out of the lumber yard when they broke down.
also, the Volvos are known to have less power, but a nice ride (they are heavy, which is what largely makes up both of those attributes).

I own a Saab, as does my dad and two friends, and I live in Boston (Cambridge) where the only cars you ever see are Audi, Saab, Volvo and BMWs - so I'm biased.

In reality, they are all great cars - but if you are going to spend that much money on the name, you might as well get performance with it - it is a personal annoyance of mine when I see people with really nice cars decked out with all kinds of shit like big wheels, yet they went with the shitty engine of the series.
 
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aside from the basic physics involved in car mechanics - nothing can make up for what aesthetic qualities you look for, and more than anything, how it feels to you when driving.

go test drive them all in the environment that you would be doing most of your driving and see how they feel, how they respond - and since you are getting that type of car - how other people respond :)
 
beastboy said:
FORD COBRA!!
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dont you dare buy a ford, go buy a european car mag and look into performance parts for an audi t 1.8...i believe you can fix em up real nice for pretty cheap, it is not hard to crank out 200+ hp with that turbo engine plus dont listen to happy scrappy about audi sucking in the snow...they are just bad drivers!!! my buddy had an audi coupe quattro and the thing was sick...my dad almost bought my brother an audi and then he got the volvo station wagon, he was sooo pissed!!!
 
LOL @ "just bad drivers" :)
everyone thinks that they are superior drivers. nice.

you can mod any car to have more horsepower - the give point is gonna be the transmission failing. I know that the Saab engine can be pushed to over 330, but you will snap your transmission very quickly since it isn't designed to handle more than 260 or so.

anyway, this happens to be an area that I know shit, and like I said, no matter how much you like the Adui, no matter how pretty it is, and no matter how nice the ride is - the 1.8T is gonna be slower off the line and slower overall than the Saab 2.0T 9-3SE - and the Saab is cheaper.

test drive all of them and make your decision off of that - not off of what someone on a chat board says :)
 
audi or merc depending on the mercs looks
 
Your choice totally depends on what you are looking for. I really like the Audi A4 1.8T with the Quattro AWD system. If you are looking to modify the car then you will want to go here http://www.goapr.com/ and look at Stage III+.:D The Quattro will help you out a lot when making that much power and allow you to transfer it to the ground effectively. Plus, AWD is very fun to drive in the snow. Of course, nothing is going to help you if you are on the ice but having AWD is definitely an advantage rather than having RWD. The Audi will probably be the best choice for overall performance because of the turbocharged engine and availability of aftermarket parts.
 
Manny,

Go for the 1957 SL Merc. It's a bargain at that price with such low mileage.

Quite frankly, all the other cars you mentioned are quite boring in comparison.

Like Happy Scrappy said, you won't get a hard on driving the Audi 1.8 they are very sluggish, with very little torque. The turbo is so mild you barely notice it.

Volvo's have very poor re-sale value. Of all the cars you mentioned, you will lose the most on re-sale from the Volvo.
 
How many times do I have to say it???


BEAMER!!!! BEAMER!!!!! BEAMER!!!!!!!!!


Guards out
 
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vinylgroover said:
Manny,

Go for the 1957 SL Merc. It's a bargain at that price with such low mileage.

Quite frankly, all the other cars you mentioned are quite boring in comparison.

Like Happy Scrappy said, you won't get a hard on driving the Audi 1.8 they are very sluggish, with very little torque. The turbo is so mild you barely notice it.

Volvo's have very poor re-sale value. Of all the cars you mentioned, you will lose the most on re-sale from the Volvo.
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I'll see how is my budget these days but if I can I'll try to lease a Mercedes 240 and buy the 1957' 190 SL
 
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manny78 said:


please explain :)
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It's like rent. You're paying to use the car, and unless you want a new car every three or four years, or can expense the charges through your company, you are just "renting" the car.

Then at the end of the lease if you turn the car in, you have nothing to show for the three years you made payments. Plus the pay off value is usually way more than the car is worth especially if you drove it excessively.

If you can it would be much better to buy the car outright however this is unrealistic for most people today who don't save. Otherwise if you can put a good downpayment toward it, and get a low interest rate I think that is the best way to go.

I've spent my share of money on leases and five year car loans, and that's it. Cars are a money pit anyway, so the next car I'm getting is a Honda to and from work for a couple thousand that I'll just purchase. Then the wife and I'll will save up for the '69 Pontiac GTO fix up.
 
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bigschweeler said:


It's like rent. You're paying to use the car, and unless you want a new car every three or four years, or can expense the charges through your company, you are just "renting" the car.

Then at the end of the lease if you turn the car in, you have nothing to show for the three years you made payments. Plus the pay off value is usually way more than the car is worth especially if you drove it excessively.

If you can it would be much better to buy the car outright however this is unrealistic for most people today who don't save. Otherwise if you can put a good downpayment toward it, and get a low interest rate I think that is the best way to go.

I've spent my share of money on leases and five year car loans, and that's it. Cars are a money pit anyway, so the next car I'm getting is a Honda to and from work for a couple thousand that I'll just purchase. Then the wife and I'll will save up for the '69 Pontiac GTO fix up.
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Thanks :)
 
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I currently have a hire purchase arrangement for my car. I use my car quite alot for work so i claim 78% of my car useage as business travel which i then claim on tax. Hire purchase enables you to claim depreciation on your car for tax purposes, which is a bonus, because depreciation is not an out of pocket expense as such.

If you can claim a significant amount of car useage as business (say over 75%) then leasing or hire purchase is wise.

But i agree, if you can't claim any of your car related expenses back as a tax deduction, then outright purchase is the way to go.
 
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vinylgroover said:
I currently have a hire purchase arrangement for my car. I use my car quite alot for work so i claim 78% of my car useage as business travel which i then claim on tax. Hire purchase enables you to claim depreciation on your car for tax purposes, which is a bonus, because depreciation is not an out of pocket expense as such.

If you can claim a significant amount of car useage as business (say over 75%) then leasing or hire purchase is wise.

But i agree, if you can't claim any of your car related expenses back as a tax deduction, then outright purchase is the way to go.
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I cant. I wont use my car to work (in fact I cant for some obvious reasons). So I think I'll have to buy it (the Mercedes C240), same thing with the 190 SL. I know it's crazy but damn I want that Ol' fart lol If mom could only give me her 1968 Impala ...... lol
 
If you want a 1.8T get the jetta with the 1.8T... same engine with the same problems. The audi 1.8 is basically a dressed up jetta 1.8.

I would go with the BMW over anything based on the way it drives. It's expensive, but they are very reliable. Much more reliable than an audi. My friend use to work for BMW( he got fired) We use to take the loaner cars out every week and literally beat the shit out of them . The 328 was the best manual transmission i have ever driven. Of course we constantly were red lining it. 328, 528, one 7 series, and a short ride with the m5. All amazing. This was a year ago so i am sure the newer models are even better.

I'm not sure about benz. I don’t like benz much because of a few people I don’t like that drive them heh.. but in reality they are up there in reliability, maybe even more so than BMW or equal. BMW is much more sporty of a car though. The 3 series will handle better.

BMW is also the safest car. I could tell a story about that, but I’m too lazy. In short – Dads friends son walked out on a head on side collision @ 60mph. Car was totaled , and the cabin blew out like a balloon. The fucking kid walked out fine. The state cop that came to the scene shit himself when he saw he survived that crash.
 
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