when are you no longer "natural"

[tiger88]

just curious to hear your opinions here......does one cycle and being off AAS for a long time can u consider your slef natural?

or once you course line thats it and you never again natural?



and if someone uses clen or t3 but no juice?


what ya'll think

 

[alltraps]

the second you intake AAS, you are not natural. clen and t3 dont count

 

[BigAndy69]

Natural? There's nothing natural about bodybuilding...eating massive amounts of protein, pushing heavy weights...etc

Natural is a term used to describe those who have not used steroids.

To me, prohormones are steroids so anyome who used prohormones and real AS is no longer natural

 

[tiger88]

well as far as a natural show ?

 

[jubei]

As far as a natural show I would say no juice. In terms of technically being all natural no supps, protien powder, clen, prohormones, creatine, glutamine. Just food and drink if you want to be totally "natural". Like andy said, bb is not a natural sport in itself.

 

[tiger88]

man i dunno what to think and stuff.....

 

[tonybuddy]

but

surely the "natural" competitors are joking though, especially at the top level of the sport where we see people like stan mcquay who is supposedly natural...

 

[tiger88]

Re: but

surely the "natural" competitors are joking though, especially at the top level of the sport where we see people like stan mcquay who is supposedly natural...

he is in the NPC now

 

[supertech69]

the second you intake AAS, you are not natural. clen and t3 dont count

& just why exactly do you believe this to be true?

I'd say having no chemaical enhancement period would be concidered natural but, what the hell is natural about taking hand fulls of aminos, liver tabs & other "natural" substances like creatine etc. I believe it's good for someone to go natural if that's what they decide, they have my respect just as much as the huge freaky monsters taking a few grams. The only problem I have with it is when someone looks down on another for using the illegal substances. Because in all likelyhood he'd be the first person in line if GNC started selling d-bol!

 

[Dial_tone]

I draw the line at controlled substances. If you can't buy it at GNC or something you're not natural. I do consider prohormone users to be natural, as long at they're legal.
I'm going buy US laws where they cannot be bought OTC. I've done one cycle since 1986 and I don't consider to be re-naturalized either.

 

[tiger88]

I draw the line at controlled substances. If you can't buy it at GNC or something you're not natural. I do consider prohormone users to be natural, as long at they're legal.
I'm going buy US laws where they cannot be bought OTC. I've done one cycle since 1986 and I don't consider to be re-naturalized either.

ya i have the same mind set as you do with the whole legal deals and stuff


gonna run my second cycle this spring/ summer and then step on stage (NOT a natty show) for the first time

 

[Outtlaw]

I draw the line at controlled substances. If you can't buy it at GNC or something you're not natural. I do consider prohormone users to be natural, as long at they're legal.
I'm going buy US laws where they cannot be bought OTC. I've done one cycle since 1986 and I don't consider to be re-naturalized either.

Yep. Thats the way I see it. And I also include insulin use to be non natural, even though you can buy it OTC.

 

[javolic]

if someone just take 50mg of deca become un-natural!!!!