what's the reason for a higher dosage

[babbabuee]

I have about 4-5 cycles under my belt, but basically lost all the gains from the past few years after having a baby. I never really went with super high doses, say 500mg test and maybe 500mg Primo or 500test/400eq, and always had great results. Well now I'm looking at a cycle to get me up to par again, but my body weight isn't up there where it used to be 190-200lbs, i'm more like 160now. my question is this, i have used AAs' in the past, but I weigh so little, should my upcoming test/deca cycle be based on prior usage or present condition? I feel that I could make it back to 180-190 no problem(especially being a bit older and wiser) with 250test/250deca every 5 days (that works out to 350mg/wk each) and winny 50mg ed orally for the first/last 3-4wks of a 9 wk cycle. I'm considering bumping both sust/deca to 250mg ea e4d (about 437mg/wk), what do you guys think?

 

[ThepoolGuy]

I would say so. Bump it up just be sure to get all your ancillaries.

 

[babbabuee]

bump

 

[stressman13]

I have about 4-5 cycles under my belt, but basically lost all the gains from the past few years after having a baby. I never really went with super high doses, say 500mg test and maybe 500mg Primo or 500test/400eq, and always had great results. Well now I'm looking at a cycle to get me up to par again, but my body weight isn't up there where it used to be 190-200lbs, i'm more like 160now. my question is this, i have used AAs' in the past, but I weigh so little, should my upcoming test/deca cycle be based on prior usage or present condition? I feel that I could make it back to 180-190 no problem(especially being a bit older and wiser) with 250test/250deca every 5 days (that works out to 350mg/wk each) and winny 50mg ed orally for the first/last 3-4wks of a 9 wk cycle. I'm considering bumping both sust/deca to 250mg ea e4d (about 437mg/wk), what do you guys think?

Personally, I'd keep the test over the deca, so Id run test 375/deca250 e4d. Its really up to you though. I like the extra test, so, thats what i do.

 

[babbabuee]

thanks stress. only problem is I have sust amps. i thought about running the deca e5d and sust e4d, but like I said, at 160lbs, there's not much meet to inject into. when I was bigger I trid bi's, delts, quads of course. I think I decided just to go to e4d. I still don't think it's necessary, but just like everyone else, i want to be jacked!

 

[solidspine]

You will not need that much gear, your diet and training will dictate how much you gain,


Where do you live in Southern California? Irvine?

 

[babbabuee]

thanks solid, thanks a lot. I just made up my mind after going back and forth for days and now you confuse me again. diet and training will most definitely be in check. i may be low on rest. fuck man, i can't decide, i wish a few other guys would chime in. tomorrow is day 4.

 

[babbabuee]

oh, solid, i'm farther south than irvine closer to San Diego

 

[stressman13]

oh, solid, i'm farther south than irvine closer to San Diego

Bro if your using Sus and really want to maximize your gains shoot it EOD. And so what if you have sus amps, you can do quarter and half doses. You load the syringe and only inject the amount you want and leave the rest in the syringe, using a fresh tip, next time. Shooting it eod will maximize the use of the prop in the sus, I'd would defintely run it this way.

 

[Bruce]

well personally i would not use deca again after the way it shut me down. i would run npp with some test. npp is fast acting deca with none of the sides you shoot it e3d so it would work fine with your sust injects. i'd keep it at 150mg e3d with your sust. i think a single ester test is much better or just a blend of prop and enth but its up to you. also i'd run proviron 50mg ed as needed with a nandrolone such as deca or even npp

 

[halfcenturian]

thanks stress. only problem is I have sust amps. i thought about running the deca e5d and sust e4d, but like I said, at 160lbs, there's not much meet to inject into. when I was bigger I trid bi's, delts, quads of course. I think I decided just to go to e4d. I still don't think it's necessary, but just like everyone else, i want to be jacked!

Bro,
I suggest 6 or 7 doses of FOODabol/ ED. And lots of PROTEINolone.
You gotsta EAT, man.
Forget about gear at 160 pounds. JMO

 

[babbabuee]

thanks guys. I have shot sust before e3d and e4d. this is my first adventure with deca, just though I'd have to give it a try. I guess my whole argument is that I feel that I can hit 180-190 with the e5d dosing I mentioned. that's because I know how to eat/train and have weighed that much before. Plus less juice/less sides. i think for the most part a lot of guys on here could make the same gains they do on 1g on 500mg instead. let's call this an experiment and I'll report my sick gains off such a low dose, and my 5th cycle, just to show everyone it can be done. if I'm wrong, no harm done and I'll have an extra couple of bottles laying around.

 

[Bruce]

what do you weight now. how tall are you man. you should be able to get near there before you hit the sauce it just sounds like you haven't been training or something when you keep sayin you think you can get back to 180 on juice, thats not a huge goal unless you are not too tall. just wondered. wasting juice is a no no

 

[babbabuee]

sorry, i should have gave more info, but was trying to keep it short. truth is I could easily get to 175lbs natty. and I've been working at it for the past month. but i'm just the type of guy that as soon as I get on cycle, i do everything else right. I eat properly, train like a mad man, i live/sleep/eat/train. take all my supplements on time, you name it. me just getting on the cycle has given me the motivation to bust my ass. in the past I was up around 185 off the juice and was still busting my ass. so it's not a matter of I have to be juicing to do the other stuff, I just need a quick jump back to a decent weight. having a baby, that's what killed me, couldn't lift at all for a year and a half. I'd been busting my ass for years to get up to 200lbs and lost it all. it's a tough pill to swallow, so I'm taking the easy way out.

 

[Bruce]

i hear you, its like that sometimes, you just need that juice in you to motivate you, its not a great habit but i am not gonna lie and say i haven't jumped in too soon, sure i could have eaten more at certain times. well it sounds like you are pretty in tune then, just need a kickstart. i would run npp if you haven't gotten the deca cause it will hit so fast and pct is so much easier but thats me.

 

[babbabuee]

bruce, i've already got the deca, actually two shots into it. but i was thinking of getting some npp for the last 3wks of the cycle while the deca clears. does that sound like a plan?

 

[OMEGA]

"I'm considering bumping both sust/deca to 250mg ea e4d (about 437mg/wk), what do you guys think?"



can we say awesomeness?

 

[Bruce]

bruce, i've already got the deca, actually two shots into it. but i was thinking of getting some npp for the last 3wks of the cycle while the deca clears. does that sound like a plan?

hell yea i would, i always run short esters while the long ones clear. just make sure you keep that dose of 300mg ew or less no matter how you inject. deca really starts to give troubles at higher than that.

 

[babbabuee]

yeah I was thinking NPP or prop. is the NPP as painful as prop?

 

[Bruce]

no npp should have no pain at all