What's more annoying, flaming libs or neo-cons?

[Gambino]

After much internal debate over this, I would have to say the hardcore libs.
They seem to be ignorant of ecomonomics or political science.
Though i don't embrace neo-cons. Their moral majority boolshit and imposing religous values are super annoying, just not quite as much as their counterparts...

 

[BrothaBill]

After much internal debate over this, I would have to say the hardcore libs.
They seem to be ignorant of ecomonomics or political science.
Though i don't embrace neo-cons. Their moral majority boolshit and imposing religous values are super annoying, just not quite as much as their counterparts...

Youre a moron, you have no clue what a neocon is, they are former left people that are neo or new to the conservative party. They moved through intellectual reasoning. They vehemently oppose the christian right in the conservative party. They take a strong moralistic foreign policy but are on the left domestically. read what I posted about neocons on Wodins are you a neocon thread. People use it as an insult but they dont know what it means or what it stands for

 

[Gambino]

Youre a moron,

easy their tony tiger

 

[CFZB]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=define:liberal

 

[H_T_]

here, try some decaf..........

 

[CFZB]

here, try some decaf..........

can I have some?

 

[H_T_]

can I have some?

how many lumps?

 

[BrothaBill]

easy their tony tiger

LOL, you know what I meant, people keep distorting what a neocon is, people are blinded by ignorance b/c people keep making up new meanings for to insult people. They have roots in socialism, the only difference is the foreign policy and some other intellectual changes. Not religious at all

 

[CFZB]

how many lumps?

2.

 

[Gambino]

LOL, you know what I meant, people keep distorting what a neocon is, people are blinded by ignorance b/c people keep making up new meanings for to insult people. They have roots in socialism, the only difference is the foreign policy and some other intellectual changes. Not religious at all

i should have said right wing fundamentalists

 

[CFZB]

i should have said right wing fundamentalists

oh...neo-cons.

 

[BrothaBill]

i should have said right wing fundamentalists

Youd be wrong their too if you equate neocon with fundamentalist like PW keeps doing, they arent fundamentalists at all, they oppose the paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan by definition. You are way off

 

[Gambino]

Youd be wrong their too, they arent fundamentalists at all, they oppose the paleoconservatives like Pat Buchanan. You are way off

come on now, semantics is what you are calling me on.
you know what i'm talking about.

 

[Gambino]

oh...neo-cons.

that made me lol

 

[BrothaBill]

come on now, semantics is what you are calling me on.
you know what i'm talking about.

No, not semantics, neocon is a completely different idealogy than traditional conservativism. I mean seriously, neocon has been distorted in meaning by people like moveon.org. They are lying to people and people are just that ignorant to not know the truth of what it is. Misinformation is the only information out there. All of it, lies I tell ya

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

I'm far more annoying then both...

 

[BrothaBill]

that made me lol

read what I posted on wodins thread, just my stuff b/c Im the only one that seemed to know what a neocon is. I cant believe people are so ignorant about politics

 

[CFZB]

that made me lol

 

[Testosterone boy]

Dunno about annoying, that is perspective.

But one party has a lot of hate and meanness.

 

[CFZB]

Dunno about annoying, that is perspective.

But one party has a lot of hate and meanness.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Teddy Roosevelt was one of our greatest presidents and a conservative.

Thomas Jefferson was our greatest president and a liberal.

Both can be great when tempered with reason, morality, and a sense for hamanity.

 

[CFZB]

Both can be great when tempered with reason, morality, and a sense for hamanity.

hmmm....Im not old enough to believe that.

In my lifetime the only good president have been democrats.....

they will have to prove it to me first.

 

[BrothaBill]

hmmm....Im not old enough to believe that.

In my lifetime the only good president have been democrats.....

they will have to prove it to me first.

What about Reagan? He dismantled the Evil Empire of the Soviet Union through massive defense spending that bankrupted the USSR and hastened its collapse. You may have not been alive when we all knew that we were thirty minutes away from annhilation by a sworn enemy. Bush I was great and so was Nixon. Only Nixon couldve gone to China, that was a great event, dont let anyone bullshit you about Watergate, that was no big thing, a third rate bungled breakin, you have to look past that at the accomplishments, he got us out of the hellhole of Vietnam

 

[CFZB]

lol...

 

[75th]

lol...

Ok, what did Nixon do wrong, aside from Watergate?

Brothabill, dont hold your breath for a reply.

Reagan is arguably the best president in history, and was voted so numerous times in the early '00s by the entire country.

 

[Testosterone boy]

hmmm....Im not old enough to believe that.

In my lifetime the only good president have been democrats.....

they will have to prove it to me first.

Washington would quite possibly be deemed more of a conservative than a liberal. Eisenhower was a very solid president. Roosevelt was such an effective president that many Republicans toasted "health to the lions" when he went on safari.

I think that sound political judgement is more important than political alliances.

One thing is for sure, the greatness of a man has little to do with their executive effectiveness. See Carter vs. Clinton for example.

 

[Mr. dB]

Ok, what did Nixon do wrong, aside from Watergate?

Brothabill, dont hold your breath for a reply.

For starters?

Wage and price controls.

55MPH national speed limit.

Interfering with Nguyen Van Thieu and Vietnamexe politics before he was even elected.

"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming
We're finally on our own
This summer I hear the drumming
Four dead in Ohio"

 

[Mr. dB]

What about Reagan? He dismantled the Evil Empire of the Soviet Union through massive defense spending that bankrupted the USSR and hastened its collapse. You may have not been alive when we all knew that we were thirty minutes away from annhilation by a sworn enemy. Bush I was great and so was Nixon. Only Nixon couldve gone to China, that was a great event, dont let anyone bullshit you about Watergate, that was no big thing, a third rate bungled breakin, you have to look past that at the accomplishments, he got us out of the hellhole of Vietnam

Amazing that you would credit Nixon with getting us out of Vietnam, considering that he first escalated our activites there even above Johnson-era levels, and we escaped from that mess in defeat having ultimately accomplished nothing. In a way, Nixon is the guy who presided over the only war the US ever lost. What an accomplishment.

The world was a safer place during the Cold War than it is today, I'm not sure that hastening the collapse of the Soviet Empire was necessarily in our best interest at the time. Without the fear of the two opposing empires, all sorts of third-world potentates now feel free to act with impunity. After all, there were no attacks on US soil during the Cold War...

Neither Nixon nor Reagan had a domestic policy worth shit.

You may have not been alive when we all knew that we were thirty minutes away from annhilation by a sworn enemy.

Please. Who was President when you were born, Reagan, Carter, or Ford?

 

[Austin316]

Yep Brotha is right Neoconservatisms roots are from the 50's, its been around a lot longer then todays PC world would have you believe and its basically people who crossed the political line due to reasoning and intelectual thinking, I'll admit that I had no idea what it was before this last semester when we devoted a good portion of the lesson plan to it

so yea Bleeding heart liberals vs religious right wing zealots would prob be more appropriate and yes I think the bleeding hearts will always be the greater of the two evils seeing as they enable every slime bag in society to act the way they do by providing crutch after crutch instead of making them take responisbility for what they do with their own lives, it's easier to ignore the other group