whats better than or comparable to Hydroxycut/xenadrine? anything new

[PSYCHOPATHIC]

is thier anything new out yet? I've used hydroxy and Xena but I think I need somting more power full. I only like hyroxy over xena because of the cost on you get so many more.. but then agian I haven't had any since last summer.. so is there somting better besids maken my own eca stack?? please let me know. thanks

Killer

 

[Willyumyum]

phenyltrophic ppa (which is sold from the supplements section of this site) is excellent, adipo kinetix is also one of the top ECA's out there and dymetadrine Xtreme is also excellent, I would use all of those before hydroxycut and xenadrine, well at least phenyltrophic and adipo... Ive never personally used dymetadrine Xtreme.

YUM

 

[Willyumyum]

Also the reason you get so many more hydroxcut is because you need to take 12 in a day for a full dose for a male and xenadrine's full dose is 4 pills a day... Xenadrine beats the everloving shit out of hydroxycut as an ECA stack though....

YUM

 

[rperry]

xen worked a lot better for me. hydroxy cutt was ok and yes joe weider i said ok not great. all his magazines have articles perscribing this stuff to everyone.ist good but overhyped.

i have a friend who took adipo and loved it, he also combined it with winny and clen i think. that may have had an impact.

personaly i dont use thermogenics except for preworkout to get pumped up. my metabolism is fast enough as it is.

good luck

 

[Bill W]

ECAs can only take you so far. If you "need something stronger," you might want to re-examine your diet and cardio regiment.

 

[PSYCHOPATHIC]

ECAs can only take you so far. If you "need something stronger," you might want to re-examine your diet and cardio regiment.

well dude I'm no newbie here.
Their is only one ECA. That’s if you make it your self. Hydroxy and friends are just derivatives of ECA. a step down if you will. Ideally I would like something comparably strong as ECA! wow what an idea. since I stated in my original post I haven't purchased anything like hyroxycut since last summer. Well I must be a dip shit for thinking that maybe some supplement company may have developed something stronger or different in almost a year’s time. But what was I thinken, its not like they’re out to make money or anything.

And I'm not even going to comment on my diet and cardio regiment.

Thanks for your comment. Although maybe you should read the whole post and think before you reply not everyone is a stupid ass on this board. (but I bet when you were typing your last comment you thought you were just the smartest shit around saying to yourself "all give him some advice why I have been giveing advice on shit like this for months now.)

KIller

oh this post was purely for humor .don't take it personal.

 

[Bill W]

You're right, I'm sorry. I missed that about not using since the last summer. When I mentioned the thing about the diet, I ment it a constructive way, but I guess it came out as curt. What I meant (and there's no way you could have known) was that sometimes you have to eat more fat to lose fat, maybe eat a few more carbs, change the time you're consuming different nutrients, etc. I did not mean it to be rude and I am sorry.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Most road-side semi truck stops carry pure ephedrine-HCL.You could combine something like that with a pure caffeine product such as Vivarin,or any comparable product sold in a health food store.I believe the most effective mg ratio is a ten to one(Caffeine to ephedrine)so dose accordingly.

 

[PSYCHOPATHIC]

it's cool bill

thats cool bill. it's late and I'm probaly just beeing and ass. but thats why I put the little humor thing at the bottom cuz by the time I got done typing that post I didn't even know what the hell I was talken about. lol

but yea I have tryed clen and have some but I'm saveing it for cutting diet soon to come. but I just really miss the alertness that comes with the eca feeling and just haveing energy but I have taken it for so long that I thought I should give it a break to see if my tolerence would go back down. but I took some of my friends the other day and I felt it but I just thought I could use more thats why I would wondering if somthing new had come out. but I guess. not I guess I'll just have to drive to every dinky like truck stop around here and try to get some hcl.

but one thing what do I use in place of caffein? viberren?(spelling) is the only thing I could think of.

thanks dude .

Killer

 

[Bill W]

I have been on Provigil for the last 4 weeks to increase daytime alertness. Its used to treat narcolepsy, but I use it at a low dosage to counteract the drowsy feelings from certain anti-depressants. If you continue to drag, check it out. I suspect, though, that you'll start feeling better.