What will happen to the Kurds?

[vinylgroover]

I'm interested to see what will come of the Kurds in the final wash-up. I can imagine that the U.S has done a deal with Turkey that the U.S will not support the establishment of an independant Kurdish state.

If the Kurds are simply satisfied with autonomy and have no further desire for the creation of an indendant state, then it won't be a problem. But, i can't see them being satisfied with that.

Turkey will not allow the creation of an independant state under any circumstances, so the tinder box in the north of Iraq could well erupt, regardless of the outcome of the war.

The real test is on the U.S. If Turkey suppresses any moves by the Kurds with force, and the U.S tacitly watches on the sidelines, it will blow up in George Bush's face big time.

As usual, the key to one problem opens the door to another in the middle east.

 

[the nature boy]

yeah I think the turks are looking to open up a can of whoopass on the kurds.

 

[KAYNE]

THE TURKS ARE FUCKING SHIT UP. WE MAY HAVE TO REGULATE THEIR ASS TO.



KAYNE

 

[vinylgroover]

THE TURKS ARE FUCKING SHIT UP. WE MAY HAVE TO REGULATE THEIR ASS TO.



KAYNE

The U.S would never do that Kayne. Turkey is too important, both strategically and militarily to the U.S.

If you guys are interested, have a read of this. Makes for interesting reading on the Kurdish issue and gives a idea of the hypocricy of US foreign policy.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saddam/kurds/

 

[big4life]

There are aprox. 25 million Kurds in an area stretching from Syria to Iran, and including Northern Iraq, and Southern Turkey. They have long demanded their own homeland where they will have autonomy, but the problem is the area they claim as their homeland. It includes a very large chunk of Turkey, Iraq, and Iran. Here is a map of the area they wish to lay claim to.

Yes, the Kurdish situation is a very big problem facing the area, and the world after this war is over.

 

[KAYNE]

The U.S would never do that Kayne. Turkey is too important, both strategically and militarily to the U.S.

I WAS BEING A BIT SARCASTIC...........BUT THEY ARE FUCKING SHIT UP. THATS WHY WE REVOKED OUR $30B AID PACKAGE. FUCKING IDIOTS WOULDNT LET US USE THE BASES FOR REFUELING BUT WANT ALL OUR MONEY. THEY WERE ALSO SLOW AS PISS TO ALLOW US TO USE 2 QUANDRANTS OF AIRSPACE. FUCKING MORONS.




KAYNE

 

[The Almighty]

The Turkey/Kurd situation will be the biggest problem of this war, IMO.

 

[jnuts]

The whole Kurdish thing is going to be a mess. It also isn't going to help that Turkey did fuck up.... Like Kayne said, $30B in $$ just went *poof*. You know that's gonna cause some problems down the road. Which is why they might be doing what they are doing.....

 

[KAYNE]

If you guys are interested, have a read of this. Makes for interesting reading on the Kurdish issue and gives a idea of the hypocricy of US foreign policy.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HYPOCRICY!!! HOWS THIS FOR HYPOCRICY??? WE GET ATTACKED AND THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS DIE. NOONE GIVES A SHIT. WE SHOW PROOF ABOUT IRAQ AND WMD AND NOONE GIVES A SHIT. LOTS OF MORONS ARE AGAINST US GOING INTO IRAQ EVEN THOUGH AFTER WE LIBERATE THEM, EVERYONE WILL JUMP ON THE FUCKING BANDWAGON AND PRAISE US. BUSH IS PURPOSELY NOT BOMBING THE WHOLE FUCKING CITY OF BAHGDAD, WHICH HE VERY WELL CAN DO AND END THIS IN A FEW HOURS, B/C OF ALL THE CIVILIANS.

HE IS ONLY DROPPING SURGICAL STRIKES THUS ONLY HITTING MILITARY AND OTHER STRATEGIC TARGETS YET WE ARE STILL THE BIG BAD GUY!!! DID YOU SEE ALL THE PEOPLE TEARING DOWN SADDAMS BILL BOARDS AND SMILING AND LAUGHING DUE TO HAPPINESS OF THE IMPENDING LIBERATION!!! YET WE ARE STILL THE BAD GUYS. FUCK THAT SHIT.




KAYNE

 

[ariolanine]

I am almost sick of analizing this shit. I hate to sound simple but why the fuck do these muslims keeping stirring up shit. All of their countries are shitholes. They have so many more important things to worry about, yet they want to fight each other too.

 

[vinylgroover]

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT HYPOCRICY!!! HOWS THIS FOR HYPOCRICY??? WE GET ATTACKED AND THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS DIE. NOONE GIVES A SHIT. WE SHOW PROOF ABOUT IRAQ AND WMD AND NOONE GIVES A SHIT. LOTS OF MORONS ARE AGAINST US GOING INTO IRAQ EVEN THOUGH AFTER WE LIBERATE THEM, EVERYONE WILL JUMP ON THE FUCKING BANDWAGON AND PRAISE US. BUSH IS PURPOSELY NOT BOMBING THE WHOLE FUCKING CITY OF BAHGDAD, WHICH HE VERY WELL CAN DO AND END THIS IN A FEW HOURS, B/C OF ALL THE CIVILIANS.

HE IS ONLY DROPPING SURGICAL STRIKES THUS ONLY HITTING MILITARY AND OTHER STRATEGIC TARGETS YET WE ARE STILL THE BIG BAD GUY!!! DID YOU SEE ALL THE PEOPLE TEARING DOWN SADDAMS BILL BOARDS AND SMILING AND LAUGHING DUE TO HAPPINESS OF THE IMPENDING LIBERATION!!! YET WE ARE STILL THE BAD GUYS. FUCK THAT SHIT.




KAYNE

I've got no poblem with any of that Kayne. Saddam needs to be taken out. In their heart of hearts, anyone who opposes the war on whatever grounds would agree that a world without Saddam is a better place.

But..........claiming that it's for the liberation of the Iraqi peope is a mistake. Bush should not be using the humanitaran justifcation for war at all. Why? because when the Kurds get fucked on by the Turks and the U.S stands by and watches, the shit will hit the fan in a big way.

 

[KAYNE]

IF IT ISNT IN PART FOR THE LIBERATION OF THE PEOPLE, THEN WHY IS BUSH TRYING TO GET APPROVAL FOR ALL THE OIL PROCEEDS TO GO INTO A HUMANITARIAN FUND FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE AND START GETTING THEM FED ANC CLOTHED AGAIN.

SADDAM HAS $7 BILLION THAT HE STOLE FROM OIL PROCEEDS. HE SITS ON GOLDEN TOILETS IN NUMEROUS VARIOUS PALACES WHILE HIS PEOPLE ARENT EVEN FED OR CLOTHED.

EVEN THE SOLDIERS WHO ARE SURRENDERING RIGHT NOW ARE SAID TO BE STARVED.




KAYNE

 

[fistfullofsteel]

This whole thread is propaganda against Turkey. Vinylgroover is Greek and the Greeks and the Turks don't like each other. The only thing missing is Sust-Man, our Armenian friend. In fact it is propaganda against the whole region.

 

[vinylgroover]

This whole thread is propaganda against Turkey. Vinylgroover is Greek and the Greeks and the Turks don't like each other. The only thing missing is Sust-Man, our Armenian friend. In fact it is propaganda against the whole region.

haha, LOL, nice spin on that FFOS.

 

[fistfullofsteel]

I forgot to mention that he is Australian too and this thread is propaganda against USA.

 

[Baoh]

The Kurds will suffer, as they've been made to suffer in the past. The US will do nothing until its own prospects are threatened. Then it will use the feigned reason of avneging the Kurds for PR reasons. We did it with the Gulf War, too. Such is the way of profit. I wouldn't expect many other countries to do any differently, mind you. I find no demons here.