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What to Say?????

6_pak

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Im sure this has been discussed before but what do you say to people, in the gym, when they ask you what your on?? My body responds very well to androgens and ive made a pretty drastic change in my appearance this past week(ive been on for 7 weeks), compared to week 6. To both the trained and untrained eye, its obvious that im on, but it f%ckin kills me when total strangers interrupts my training to accuse me. I would be more than happy to tell those ignorant f@cks to go to hell, but the problem is they are local detectives, and these guys arent the cleanest plates in the dishwasher,if you know what i mean. One of the assholes has gone so far as to call up a previous coworker of mine(who is actually friends with him) and tried to get him to set me up. Like im some kind of freakin drug dealer now. Im a full time student with a 40+ hr/week job, and the rest of my free time im spending getting ready for my first competition in april. All they see me as is some kind of low life juice head drug dealer. So how do you respond to such ignorance?? Im actually considering switching gyms in a month. I hate to let these idiots make me feel like i need to quit my current gym, but it is really an annoyance that i dont see going away ever. THese fat asses dont realize what kind of shit we put ourselves through, such as eating 8-9 times a day-reaching that 5000-6000 calorie mark of good clean food, busting our asses in the gym to the brink of passing out or puking, and then making sure we get 7-8 hrs of sleep every nite. And when one of these assholes stands there with a cocky ass grin and basically calls u a juice head, it makes you feel that every thing you put yourself through is all for not. But then again what the hell does these ignorant motherf$ckers know. Anyway im through ranting, let my know what your favorite answers to the forbidden question in the gym ettiquete handbook.
 
I just say that I wasnt into diet/rest before and ever since my big friends taught me about it I just blew up, LOL. Basically claim to have good genetics I didnt know about
 
most of the questions i get are from people that don't work out anyway, or know anything about training, so i just tell them i'm on some special creatine and glutamine. they usually just say "oh...ok, will that stuff work for me?" I tell them "probably not".
 
wesley90 said:
Just tell them you are juicing...be proud of what you stand for.

Be proud all the way to Riker's ;)
 
Keep a bottle of "SuperPump250" on hand and explain to these guys how this is the most amazing shith that you have ever used....Tell them to go try a bottle for themselves and leave it at that.
 
See. that why the is such ignorance about steroids...no one expirenced in real life will show people how safe they can be...so keep touting your supertest3000, it will just bring more ignorance to our country.
 
wesley90 said:
See. that why the is such ignorance about steroids...no one expirenced in real life will show people how safe they can be...so keep touting your supertest3000, it will just bring more ignorance to our country.

first off, the people who approach me about my unusual growth spurts don't want to be educated about AAS. they just want to know other people's business.

second, i am under no duty to educate johnny public about AAS at risk of my own personal wellbeing. If you want to stick your dick out to try and show the public how responsible the users of AAS can be, then be aware that it may get cut off.

just my .02
 
boston basher said:
K to you, I like that answer!
And if it wouldnt land us in prison and 20/20 I would like it to.
 
wesley90 said:
How is admitting using gonna get you in prison? Education cures ignorance.

uh, Cuz its illegal and people love to talk.
 
Why isnt Giambi in prison? He admitted openly to the press he used. Oh, what about Jose Conseco...he did the same...He even wrote a book on it!
 
wesley90 said:
How is admitting using gonna get you in prison? Education cures ignorance.

do you really think that when someone approaches you about steroids they want to be educated. i would guess taht 99% of people already have preconcieved notions about gear. so what are you going to do, sit down with some of these ignorant fucks and explain to them how hard you train and how wisely you eat and what a good person you are? they don't care. they have already formed thier opinions about steroids and the people that use them. in my opinion, your answer does no more than waste time and admit to illegal drug use. pointless.
 
wesley90 said:
Why isnt Giambi in prison? He admitted openly to the press he used. Oh, what about Jose Conseco...he did the same...He even wrote a book on it!

and look what pain in the ass that admission has turned otu to be for him.
 
wesley90 said:
Why isnt Giambi in prison? He admitted openly to the press he used. Oh, what about Jose Conseco...he did the same...He even wrote a book on it!

Same reason OJ isnt in prison. Just cause he can kill his wife doesnt mean we can, LOL. I do like your reasoning though. I love to educate fellow juicers.
 
DiamondCutCows said:
Same reason OJ isnt in prison. Just cause he can kill his wife doesnt mean we can, LOL. I do like your reasoning though. I love to educate fellow juicers.


heheheh so true...
 
showtime2004 said:
explain to me how you are relating civil rights activists to steroid use?

I am relating civil rights activists to steroid use activists...they are both for a cause that have followers...
 
wesley90 said:
I am relating civil rights activists to steroid use activists...they are both for a cause that have followers...

I feel you there.
 
And you must also realize that we have scientific PROOF going for us...the civil rights activists had to PERSUADE peple, a much harder aspect to overcome.
 
wesley90 said:
I am relating civil rights activists to steroid use activists...they are both for a cause that have followers...

ok. but i don't think that we all have a duty, or desire, to be the leader of a revolution. i, for one, could not have people find out that i use AAS. it would be a serious problem for my employer and for the agency that regulates my profession. i enjoy helping people in an anonomous forum like this, but i am far from helping out joe schome at the gym if it puts my career in jeopardy. i understand where you are coming from, and more power to you if you want to lead this revolution, but its a hard fought battle.

btw, look what happened to the revolutionaries that you cited in your example. unfortunately, it is what usually happens.
 
I won't tell people in the gym what to take cuz I wanna be the only big one in the gym--let them figure it out themselves like we have to....
 
wesley90 said:
And you must also realize that we have scientific PROOF going for us...the civil rights activists had to PERSUADE peple, a much harder aspect to overcome.

and unfortunately, scientific evidence, often times, doesn't persuade the powers that be.
 
Yes, that was my point. These leaders take the hit...but millions upon millions are affected by what they have done. I am simply condoning that people help educate others on the facts of steroid use. Yeah, I was probably going over the line suggesting that he blatantly tell them, in fact I wasnt really serious. But education is what is gonna take this shit out of where it is today.
 
wesley90 said:
Yes, that was my point. These leaders take the hit...but millions upon millions are affected by what they have done. I am simply condoning that people help educate others on the facts of steroid use. Yeah, I was probably going over the line suggesting that he blatantly tell them, in fact I wasnt really serious. But education is what is gonna take this shit out of where it is today.

What we need is someone like Ahhnold to teach the public. Someone they respect and will listen to.





Of course they may just stop respecting him :rolleyes:
 
showtime2004 said:
do you think that there are people out there who don't know/believe arnold did steriods?

My dad got all upset with me when I said Arnie juiced. I told him to check the special features of PI and see Arnie say it casually. My dad didnt want to see it, LOL
 
You guys can argue this one out all you want, knowing full well it doesn't matter b/c there will never be a day where joe public is cool with gear. No amount of education is going to cure the real problem, and that is jealousy. People are jealous bastards, so anyone who isn't juicing and isn't in shape doesn't want to see you that way, better than them, and they will fight tooth and claw to keep you from it. This means there will always be vast public support for anti-gear politics. Nobody wants to be physically inferior and its far easier on the psyche to tell ones self that guy makes me look like a slob b/c he's on juice and he's a criminal rather than saying that guy has will power and determination I could only dream of. You see where I'm coming from? Wesley, I dig alot of the feeling behind what you're saying, but I'm still laughing at you for the civil rights comparison for giambi.

Giambi, while I feel he is getting scapegoated, didn't take a stand for gear, he got caught when closed door testimony got leaked. He was being honest b/c he thought it would never see the light of day. Everything he's done after has been a function of riding the thing out. What's next comparisons of Canseco to Ghandi? Hopefully, one day someone in a position of respect and power will set the record straight, but even then it won't do any real good I'm afraid.
 
so what if you admit to using steroids, they can't legally bust you without evidence. You can say your the president - you can say anything you want - but as long as they don't have any evidence that you are selling it, using it, don't worry. Most people will just call you a cheater for using aas..so what..

My name is SpareTire, I'm an AAS user.. I cheat and I'M DAM PROUD OF IT :)
 
wesley90 said:
Why isnt Giambi in prison? He admitted openly to the press he used. Oh, what about Jose Conseco...he did the same...He even wrote a book on it!
There is a big difference about what Giambi and Conseco did. They openly admit that they did steroids in the past. If you tell the wrong person (a member of law enforcement or anyone that is working for them as a snitch) that you are currently using steroids, you are giving them an open invitation to get a search warrant for your home etc. Remember a fish usually dies by his own mouth.
 
alexmichael said:
There is a big difference about what Giambi and Conseco did. They openly admit that they did steroids in the past. If you tell the wrong person (a member of law enforcement or anyone that is working for them as a snitch) that you are currently using steroids, you are giving them an open invitation to get a search warrant for your home etc. Remember a fish usually dies by his own mouth.



Agreed...lets just be friends :)
 
showtime2004 said:
do you really think that when someone approaches you about steroids they want to be educated. i would guess taht 99% of people already have preconcieved notions about gear. so what are you going to do, sit down with some of these ignorant fucks and explain to them how hard you train and how wisely you eat and what a good person you are? they don't care. they have already formed thier opinions about steroids and the people that use them. in my opinion, your answer does no more than waste time and admit to illegal drug use. pointless.



EXACTLY!!!!!!
 
HMMMMMM, I know Fuck Em, dont even think about changing your gym bro. Stay there so those fucks can continue to be baffled by your gains. Oh yeah did I say Fuck em!!!!!!!! Keep up the good work. :evil:
 
wesley90 said:
How is admitting using gonna get you in prison? Education cures ignorance.

Wrong. Did you read his post. He said that DETECTIVES are asking him this shit. Why do you think they want to know? Um let's see....a detective is asking you what you're on and you also know that he tried to set you up in the past....should I educate him??? I think not! Fuck education, save your ass bro and tell him you're on Cell Tech.
 
I would just respond by asking questions...
-tell me how many meals a day you have
-what do those meals consist of
-at what times do you eat them
-what does your routine look like
-how often do you change your split
-what supplements do you use
-what are your sleep patterns like
-what are you goals
* I usually finish by saying something like "So what you are telling me is that you come here (the gym) without a plan and without any education on how to improve your body?!!?? I really don't know where to begin"
That is enough to make even a detective feel like a fucking moron... a lot of them are... thats another story!!!
 
too bad prohormones are banned now.. else you could tell them that it's the best made since the human found out protein is good for muscles
 
showtime2004 said:
first off, the people who approach me about my unusual growth spurts don't want to be educated about AAS. they just want to know other people's business.

second, i am under no duty to educate johnny public about AAS at risk of my own personal wellbeing. If you want to stick your dick out to try and show the public how responsible the users of AAS can be, then be aware that it may get cut off.

just my .02
I AGREE why get someone else big, if i recall i had to learn on myown (excludeing you guys) so why make it easy for someone else not willing to work for it. not to mention he said these guys are cops, thats smart just educate them from the back of the car, dude dont say shit.
 
slat1 said:
I would just respond by asking questions...
-tell me how many meals a day you have
-what do those meals consist of
-at what times do you eat them
-what does your routine look like
-how often do you change your split
-what supplements do you use
-what are your sleep patterns like
-what are you goals
* I usually finish by saying something like "So what you are telling me is that you come here (the gym) without a plan and without any education on how to improve your body?!!?? I really don't know where to begin"
That is enough to make even a detective feel like a fucking moron... a lot of them are... thats another story!!!
hell yaa..

the guys in my school gym already made rumors about me juicing.. and i dont even juice , lol. i just tell the guys that i eat a few chickens a day... but when i go on.. ill tell everyone that i upped my calories and im taking a new kind of glutamine called Ener-G ! lol
 
sparetire said:
so what if you admit to using steroids, they can't legally bust you without evidence. You can say your the president - you can say anything you want - but as long as they don't have any evidence that you are selling it, using it, don't worry. Most people will just call you a cheater for using aas..so what..

My name is SpareTire, I'm an AAS user.. I cheat and I'M DAM PROUD OF IT :)

No offense but you have no idea how the legal system works. If I go tell someone I have a dead body in my attic, the police have a right to search my house. No different for roids, but in most cases I'd say LE could give two shits about Joe Schmoe shooting up (unless they feel like being dicks that day)
 
Strangers interrupt your workout bro to accuse you?? Wow you got some bold mofos in your gym. Nobody says shit to me at my gym, ever. Everyone keeps to themselves.
 
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