Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below How are you guys doing? I have finally decided what I am going to take. I am going to run starchem labs ICON. What I need help with now is what type of liver support(if any) should I take on cycle and what should I take for PCT? I wanna be able to get everything at the same time. I also noticed on JAM that there is a p-plex and ICON stack that seems to be a good deal. What should I do. I have taken prohormones before, it was just a few years back when Ergopharms 1-AD was out. Oh, currently I am taking no-xplode,cellmass,and nitrix. Can I continue any of these while I am on ICON. Thanks in advance guys.
What support and PCT with ICON?
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rikishi
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you dont need a liver support on ICON.
ICON doesn't shut you down nearly as bad as test or other aas will. PCT should be sustain alpha. you can do nolvadex if you want, but i personally do not like it.
i wouldnt take pplex unless you are 100% fucking dedicated to eating a ridiculously perfect diet and training as hard as you possibly can. pplex is for bulking so unless you are trying to bulk i wouldnt take it. ICON is great for cutting.
no-explode, cellmass and nitrix would be a waste if you use pplex. however if you stick to just ICON creatine is OK to use. personally, i think you are wasting a LOT of money taking those. you dont need all three. no explode is basically cellmass and nirtix combined together, so either get rid of cellmass and nitrix or get rid of no explode. personally i believe those supp.s are a giant waste of money. yes, they are somewhat effective, but they are so overpriced and you can find supps just as effective if not more for a fraction of the price. i take nitrulline from the vitamin shoppe, its a lot cheaper than nitrix and more effective IMO. cellmass is a good creatine but i find it way overpriced.
Sustain Alpha is what I would recommend if you run ICON alone. If you decide to run ICON and PPlex I would definitely have Nolva and dex or aromasin on hand. I have some PPlex put back for later use and I plan on running a low dose of adex e3d while on it. ICON by itself will be very mild and I doubt that it will shut you down too hard.
I agree with rikishi. The BSN products are a waste of hard earned money. Amp02 blows NOxplode away. I can not speak for the other products you mentioned.
Also, you should log your ICON or ICON/PPlex cycle in the My Cycle section of the Platinum forum. Take advantage of your Plat membership and get some good bros help while on.
I agree with rikishi. The BSN products are a waste of hard earned money. Amp02 blows NOxplode away. I can not speak for the other products you mentioned.
Also, you should log your ICON or ICON/PPlex cycle in the My Cycle section of the Platinum forum. Take advantage of your Plat membership and get some good bros help while on.
I definitely will. I buy the BSN stuff online for pretty damn cheap compared to retail. It may be due to a long layoff and the fact that I used to be in really good shape that I have seen huge change in my physique since I started taking all three of their products. I have some before pics and I will be taking 8 week pics soon so I will post them up. I started about 7 weeks ago and I am on a strict diet,probably close to a calorie deficit and I have went from 240 pounds to 265 in 6 weeks. I have stayed in the same 36 inch pants I was in so I know that it has been muscle gains(and water weight from the creatine). I damn sure dont look like I weigh that much, I look about 225-230. I really dont know where the weight is. I am 6'3 and about 14 percent bf, according to the last test we had done to us at the fire dept. I will get a log going as soon as I start though.
Also, I used to be obese when I was a teenager. I failed to mention that, but the point is that my metabolism sucks and I have to eat strict and do alot of cadio just to stay around 13-14 percent bf. With that being said, do you think that I would gain fat with p-plex? thats not what I am going for. I have cut cardio down to 35 minutes 6 days a week instead of 50 minutes. Thanks for all the info guys.
I am a former fat boy too and I have to really watch my diet and keep up with cardio to maintain 12-15% bf.
PPlex will not cause you to gain fat in itself, but it does aromatize (despite what some claim) and you will put on some water weight. You should consider running ICON with PP's new 1-T transdermal. Both are non methyl and should should give you lean mass gains. You could even throw in JAMs Monsterdrol which is methylated and an advanced DS like PPlex, but it will give lean dry gains. This is probably the strongest DS on the market and I believe he is almost sold out for good. If you run Monsterdrol you will need a Cycle Support and Liver Support supp. I don't really see any other legal stack that will out perfrom ICON, Monsterdrol, and the 1-T as far as dry lean boy mass gains are concerned.
PPlex will not cause you to gain fat in itself, but it does aromatize (despite what some claim) and you will put on some water weight. You should consider running ICON with PP's new 1-T transdermal. Both are non methyl and should should give you lean mass gains. You could even throw in JAMs Monsterdrol which is methylated and an advanced DS like PPlex, but it will give lean dry gains. This is probably the strongest DS on the market and I believe he is almost sold out for good. If you run Monsterdrol you will need a Cycle Support and Liver Support supp. I don't really see any other legal stack that will out perfrom ICON, Monsterdrol, and the 1-T as far as dry lean boy mass gains are concerned.
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