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What should I do with my gf?

Hiatussin

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I haven´t been posting much lately, luckily, but these boards are still perfect for a varied, partially anonymous opinion on things.

I´m going to try and keep this short.

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I´m 19, turning 20 in a week. She is 18.

I´m in uni, she´s in the senior year of HS, she goes to the same school I went to.

We´ve been together as each other´s first for over two years now.

We live about a 4 hour travel apart, see each other about 5 days a month or so and keep contact over the net and phone otherwise.

She is coming to the same town to study next year, partially since I live here. She´s even already subscribed. We grew up in Holland and I now study in Belgium, where she knows noone else and is coming too. It´s a big step, it would mean we are very serious. We´ve done vacations, we know each others parents and siblings well, we talk.

She has always been honest about having a specific thing for males that are older than her. She says she´s partially with me since I look and act older than I am.

We are exceptionally brutally honest with one another. I´ll tell her anything and I had the idea this was mutual.

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Now lately she has been uncomfortable and she said she didn´t feel like she can say everything on her mind. I squeeze it out of her and she confesses that

She has been having strong, obsessive, recurring sexual fantasies about her chemistry teacher at school. (He is 55, married, kinda fat, has no chin and speaks like a sloth. Furthermore he has a certain resemblance to Rowan Atkinson. I was in his class for four years, and made two trips to England together with him)

She admits it´s reached a point where she transpires when speaking to him and can´t pay attention in class. She also chose him as her personal mentor and he accompanied her to an internship in a company for a week last month. She says that during this time it was "like father/daughter" (she has a very weak father who means little to her, daddy issues) This attraction has existed for 3/4 of a year now, 9 months. She swears it never went beyond thoughts.

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I read her the riot act. I pointed out how I told her honestly and willingly whenever one day I had 1% attraction to someone, how honest I always was about everything in general.

I told her I have my perverted thoughts, but they never circle around one specific third person for a long time. That if they did, I would certainly tell her immediately, make up my mind and sort it out.

Furthermore I´m stumped and smashed by the guy in question. There´s just nothing about him, regardless his age. I recall his obvious bad breath and his dullness and how lame his daughter was.

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She also keeps saying how she feels inferior around me and my friends and how she keeps feeling she´s not clever enough and blabla. She´s insecure.

I talked to her on the phone for about an hour yesterday and I was very calm and rational and hard and basically explained she needs to get her shit together. She´s coming over this weekend.

what the fuck do I do now?
 
damn bro, that sounds like a full plate. This being the same gf that is a total nympho (according to your previous posts)?

I think the best and sanest thing here is to seek counseling, fantasies of this type are normally a consequence of something deeper. You want to try and treat the cause, not the symptom and not, I'm not getting Freudian on your ass, but this sounds way more complicated than a simple bit of kinkyness on her side
 
I used to be brutally honest w/perspective mates as well. I am now nearing 40 and have realized that this is not such a good thing. Not saying you should lie. Just saying that there are certain things that are better left unsaid. (I know, I am a slow learner, but at least I do get it eventually LOL).

You and she are too young to be so serious about anything.

Put the relationship in perspective. It was a wonderful first love. And put it to bed.

May seem harsh, but without all sorts of flowery rhetoric - is the meat of my advice.
 
pintoca said:
damn bro, that sounds like a full plate. This being the same gf that is a total nympho (according to your previous posts)?

I think the best and sanest thing here is to seek counseling, fantasies of this type are normally a consequence of something deeper. You want to try and treat the cause, not the symptom and not, I'm not getting Freudian on your ass, but this sounds way more complicated than a simple bit of kinkyness on her side
yes it´s her

yes she has daddy issues. Her dad is stupid, sweet, weak, inmasculine, a pushover. Her energetic fanatic mom, who also makes more $ than him, rules the house.

she also doesn´t respect herself enough

counseling?

understanding? whats there to be understanding about?
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I used to be brutally honest w/perspective mates as well. I am now nearing 40 and have realized that this is not such a good thing. Not saying you should lie. Just saying that there are certain things that are better left unsaid. (I know, I am a slow learner, but at least I do get it eventually LOL).

You and she are too young to be so serious about anything.

Put the relationship in perspective. It was a wonderful first love. And put it to bed.

May seem harsh, but without all sorts of flowery rhetoric - is the meat of my advice.
I dont know if your history of trouble in life makes you a better or a worse source for advice.

Basically you are saying to break up with her?

Maybe I will. I can´t imagine it will be the same. Making love for instance.
 
pintoca said:
nope

what's next? "Help her hooking up with the teacher, facing her fantasy will cure her"
lol no.

Im saying the same thing you are, essentially. This obsession with the Chemistry teacher is obviously indicative of some much deeper issues. It's not like she confessed to sleeping with the old fart. Jeez.


She needs support from her b/f to work through her issues is all Im saying. If he doesnt want to do that, or can't, then he should move on.

End of story.
 
Hiatussin said:
I dont know if your history of trouble in life makes you a better or a worse source for advice.


RAMON SAYS


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Bounce, dog. bounce. anyone who says having fantasies like that is fine because it's not like she is actually fucking him has probably been cheated on several times cause of their short sightedness. Even if she doesn't fuck him, she wants to. Which is as bad as actually doing it.

She's young. She's not ready for a marriage type deal yet.
 
Smurfy said:
lol no.

Im saying the same thing you are, essentially. This obsession with the Chemistry teacher is obviously indicative of some much deeper issues. It's not like she confessed to sleeping with the old fart. Jeez.


She needs support from her b/f to work through her issues is all Im saying. If he doesnt want to do that, or can't, then he should move on.

End of story.
I´m not a councellor, a social worker or a psychiatrist. My last gf before her was a crazy anorexic genius with a pathological fear of judgement. I waited two years for her to better herself. I read books on her issues. I was there for her, I tried to see through it all. I met her again for dinner some months ago. She´s exactly where she was 3 years ago.

I´m NOT going there. Besides, even if she gets better (which is hard to define anyway) it´s not like it will be the same again...

but I love her. my friends and family love her, she does anything for me.

fuck it. I´m gonna give her a good chance to convince me this weekend but I´ll be critical and hard and there´s no nookie just like that... I dont even feel like making love to her now.
 
Not to be too ofensive, but on here you seem to have a better-than-thou attitude.

Maybe a lot of the problem lies within yourself.
 
KillahBee said:
Bounce, dog. bounce. anyone who says having fantasies like that is fine because it's not like she is actually fucking him has probably been cheated on several times cause of their short sightedness. Even if she doesn't fuck him, she wants to. Which is as bad as actually doing it.

She's young. She's not ready for a marriage type deal yet.
She never said it was "ok" because of that. She was very ashamed and felt very bad
 
alien amp pharm said:
Not to be too ofensive, but on here you seem to have a better-than-thou attitude.

Maybe a lot of the problem lies within yourself.
I am definately considering this aspect of it, and have discussed it with her.

SHE is the one who is convinced that I am superior to her. She gets down because she feels she´s too stupid to join in conversations I have with friends when she´s around (even if they are complete BS)

I tell her this, that I want her to be assertive and stand up for herself.

She puts me on a pedestal.

She was raised in a socialist home and i´m a libertarian and she doesn´t argue, she just feels

*she is stupid
*I am mean, intolerant and cold

whenever anything political passes discussion.

Older friends always told me to just not discuss politics with women, since it´s only trouble, but I didn´t want to evade it. It´s not something I put in her face it´s just there sometimes.
 
Hiatussin said:
I dont know if your history of trouble in life makes you a better or a worse source for advice.

Basically you are saying to break up with her?

Maybe I will. I can´t imagine it will be the same. Making love for instance.

It is less about my history in life and more about the fact that I have seen a bit of it. The passage of time and life experience allows us to see the same circumstances with a different set of eyes. Not better necessarily, just different.

You are BOTH far too young to make such a commitment. You have your entire lives ahead of you.

If somewhere down the line life brings you two back around then you will both understand that the other is what you truly wanted and not only because there really was no other to compare it to.

I am not addressing any of your specific issues at all. I am merely pointing out what I did not know at the tender age of 20. And that is, there is sooooooo much more to life than what you have come to know at that age. Not better or even worse, just more. If you've not yet experienced then how can you know?
 
Hiatussin said:
Older friends always told me to just not discuss politics with women, since it´s only trouble, but I didn´t want to evade it. It´s not something I put in her face it´s just there sometimes.

Two topics I RARELY discuss with anyone be they male or female: religion and politics.

Because:

Though I find religion to be fascinating MOST people will take such topics personally making an intelligent and non-emotionally charged discussion nearly impossible. I love to debate. I HATE to argue.

I find politics to be boring and inane.... period.... end of story.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
It is less about my history in life and more about the fact that I have seen a bit of it. The passage of time and life experience allows us to see the same circumstances with a different set of eyes. Not better necessarily, just different.

You are BOTH far too young to make such a commitment. You have your entire lives ahead of you.

If somewhere down the line life brings you two back around then you will both understand that the other is what you truly wanted and not only because there really was no other to compare it to.

I am not addressing any of your specific issues at all. I am merely pointing out what I did not know at the tender age of 20. And that is, there is sooooooo much more to life than what you have come to know at that age. Not better or even worse, just more. If you've not yet experienced then how can you know?

I never said i believe I´ll marry her.

I just want to stay with her until it´s not enjoyable or healthy anymore. I´m trying to make up my mind of whether than is now or not.

I´m going to tell her very straight up... If this is going to be about drama, or there is going to be dishonesty, I have better things to do, it´s not worth it, even if we work it through and decide we are "over it"- thats still not where I want to be.

I dont want to be an overcomer of stupid drama. I just want to never have anything to do with it in the first place. At least when there aren´t any kids involved.
 
Hiatussin said:
I´ve read my share of sexist literature. I refuse to believe in it for now. Better to just stay with women until their facade of making some kind of sense at first fades and then just move on to the next.

very sad, not sexist, just ugly, which the truth often is.
 
Hiatussin said:
I never said i believe I´ll marry her.

I just want to stay with her until it´s not enjoyable or healthy anymore. I´m trying to make up my mind of whether than is now or not.

Think about how you two are setting her situation up. She will be far from home, no friends or family - you and your friends her only support system.

If she is choosing to study at this university because that is what she would choose regardless of her relationship with you then GREAT. If not then not-so-great. LOL

From the little bit that you have written here, the relationship is far from enjoyable or healthy.

You are a bit older and she will most likely not admit that she is choosing to be with you. Do the right thing and break it off with her. If she chooses to continue on the same path (meaning choosing to study so close) then there is a likelihood that you will eventually run into each other again. Who is to say that in the future you can not always pick up if that is what you both want?... As individuals that have evolved a bit?

And as a side-bar I do applaud your sense of self-awareness and rational thinking. (That goes for you both!) I wish that I had the emotional and mental fortitude which would have given me the ability to be so reflective at such a young age.

Live and learn. :)

Good luck to you both!
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Think about how you two are setting her situation up. She will be far from home, no friends or family - you and your friends her only support system.

If she is choosing to study at this university because that is what she would choose regardless of her relationship with you then GREAT. If not then not-so-great. LOL

From the little bit that you have written here, the relationship is far from enjoyable or healthy.

You are a bit older and she will most likely not admit that she is choosing to be with you. Do the right thing and break it off with her. If she chooses to continue on the same path (meaning choosing to study so close) then there is a likelihood that you will eventually run into each other again. Who is to say that in the future you can not always pick up if that is what you both want?... As individuals that have evolved a bit?

And as a side-bar I do applaud your sense of self-awareness and rational thinking. (That goes for you both!) I wish that I had the emotional and mental fortitude which would have given me the ability to be so reflective at such a young age.

Live and learn. :)

Good luck to you both!

She should come here regardless. She wants to do a specific program that´s only taught here in Dutch, a bachelor and master in arts history and then a doctorate to restore damaged old art into original form.

Studying here would be her best option regardless. She also keeps stressing how much she wants to move out of her home town.
 
I´d like to comment that this board is extremely ruthless in relationship advice.

I don´t think ive seen a GF thread that didn´t have 500 "dump her!" "women are evil!" posts in it.

I´d just like to mention how she is always sending me little thoughtful surprise gifts, how she does anything for me, how she is exceptional in bed and loves to have sex... how comfy we are together. If i have a zit on my back, she pops it.

we give one another long massages. my whole family loves her.
 
Hiatussin said:
I´d like to comment that this board is extremely ruthless in relationship advice.

I don´t think ive seen a GF thread that didn´t have 500 "dump her!" "women are evil!" posts in it.

I´d just like to mention how she is always sending me little thoughtful surprise gifts, how she does anything for me, how she is exceptional in bed and loves to have sex... how comfy we are together. If i have a zit on my back, she pops it.

we give one another long massages. my whole family loves her.

http://www.jgeoff.com/godfather/gf1/actman.wav :D
 
Hiatussin said:
I´m not a councellor, a social worker or a psychiatrist. My last gf before her was a crazy anorexic genius with a pathological fear of judgement. I waited two years for her to better herself. I read books on her issues. I was there for her, I tried to see through it all. I met her again for dinner some months ago. She´s exactly where she was 3 years ago.

I´m NOT going there. Besides, even if she gets better (which is hard to define anyway) it´s not like it will be the same again...

but I love her. my friends and family love her, she does anything for me.

fuck it. I´m gonna give her a good chance to convince me this weekend but I´ll be critical and hard and there´s no nookie just like that... I dont even feel like making love to her now.
well if you already know what you will and wont do, why are you asking for advice in a public forum>?
 
Smurfy said:
well if you already know what you will and wont do, why are you asking for advice in a public forum>?
I just want to know the opinions of people who are looking from a distance, with a clearer mind

this place may not be too suitable but its the closest thing
 
Hiatussin said:
I´d like to comment that this board is extremely ruthless in relationship advice.

I don´t think ive seen a GF thread that didn´t have 500 "dump her!" "women are evil!" posts in it.

I´d just like to mention how she is always sending me little thoughtful surprise gifts, how she does anything for me, how she is exceptional in bed and loves to have sex... how comfy we are together. If i have a zit on my back, she pops it.

we give one another long massages. my whole family loves her.
that's a great thing. a lot of people wish they could have something as special as what you are describing. if you want to keep her, then dont you think it's a good idea to see what needs to be done to work through this issue and do it? part of working through issues is being supportive of one another. that's what I meant when I said be supportive. she should do the same.
 
Smurfy said:
that's a great thing. a lot of people wish they could have something as special as what you are describing. if you want to keep her, then dont you think it's a good idea to see what needs to be done to work through this issue and do it? part of working through issues is being supportive of one another. that's what I meant when I said be supportive. she should do the same.
Do people really change like that
 
Hiatussin said:
She should come here regardless. She wants to do a specific program that´s only taught here in Dutch, a bachelor and master in arts history and then a doctorate to restore damaged old art into original form.

Studying here would be her best option regardless. She also keeps stressing how much she wants to move out of her home town.

As I said, if studying there is the best for her, then she should make that decision irrespective of her relationship with you.

I will hold my tongue about the rest as you will both do as you wish regardless.

I wish you both all of life's blessings and the strength to weather the storm.
 
dude, she is fantasizing about the old guy. sooner or later you are going to get fucked cause she is a time bomb waiting to happen.

do yourself a favor and dump her ass. but make sure you get a good sex vid out of it first. you will thank me later.
 
Becoming said:
dude, she is fantasizing about the old guy. sooner or later you are going to get fucked cause she is a time bomb waiting to happen.

do yourself a favor and dump her ass. but make sure you get a good sex vid out of it first. you will thank me later.


DING DING DING!

Tell him what he's won, Bob!
 
decide what YOU want, decide what the real issues are, and deal with them...although i have been in a relationship where i was leaps and bounds ahead of her in the IQ department and it sucked. she didnt get my jokes. she didnt get subtle points. i felt like i was a parent sometimes. drove me mad. personally id think of bailing.

the other thing is...your girl is having fantasies about a mr bean lookalike. i mean, apart from being horribly fucking insulting (mr fucking bean?!?!) it makes me think...just how many broken circuits are there in this girls brain? thats not normal. this chemistry guy is one lucky mofo, go ask him for some lotto numbers or something...

the other thing is, and dont be offended by this...you really ARE a cold, dry, unfeeling sort of bastard who would be an absolute misery for anyone but another cold, unfeeling sort of human being to live with...so if shes the arty, free spirit type...do her a massive favour and cut her loose.

actually you can be offended if you like, its not fair if you dont. personally if some guy over the internet just called me a miserable bastard who should do a girl a favour by getting the hell away from them, i might be iritated for a second or 2. maybe :verygood:
 
KillahBee said:
DING DING DING!

Tell him what he's won, Bob!

can you taste the old guys saggy nuts when you kiss her?
 
Becoming said:
dude, she is fantasizing about the old guy. sooner or later you are going to get fucked cause she is a time bomb waiting to happen.

do yourself a favor and dump her ass. but make sure you get a good sex vid out of it first. you will thank me later.
This situation kind of reminds me of Big Daddy.
 
I will say that she is young and has not really found herself yet, I am 25 and the world looked totally different to me when I was 18. I am of the belief that if what you have is real then it is undeniable. You may break up with her and date other females, it takes losing something to see the value in it. You might try to leave it alone for a while, if you have very strong feelings pursue it, if not then leave it alone. On a side note, if you don't plan on marrying her then it is a dead end street anyway. I'm not saying that every relationship should have marriage looming in the background, but due to the nature of your relationship with her it is. Don't leave her hanging on if you can't see yourself with her.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
the other thing is, and dont be offended by this...you really ARE a cold, dry, unfeeling sort of bastard who would be an absolute misery for anyone but another cold, unfeeling sort of human being to live with...so if shes the arty, free spirit type...do her a massive favour and cut her loose.

actually you can be offended if you like, its not fair if you dont. personally if some guy over the internet just called me a miserable bastard who should do a girl a favour by getting the hell away from them, i might be iritated for a second or 2. maybe :verygood:

sounds very familiar to what I´ve heard a 1000 times.

I have simply asked her if she feels i am too cold and distant

she denied this. thought about it well first
 
Becoming said:
dude, she is fantasizing about the old guy. sooner or later you are going to get fucked cause she is a time bomb waiting to happen.

do yourself a favor and dump her ass. but make sure you get a good sex vid out of it first. you will thank me later.
Videos- check.

not sure if id ever spread them
 
silverbackn said:
I will say that she is young and has not really found herself yet, I am 25 and the world looked totally different to me when I was 18. I am of the belief that if what you have is real then it is undeniable. You may break up with her and date other females, it takes losing something to see the value in it. You might try to leave it alone for a while, if you have very strong feelings pursue it, if not then leave it alone. On a side note, if you don't plan on marrying her then it is a dead end street anyway. I'm not saying that every relationship should have marriage looming in the background, but due to the nature of your relationship with her it is. Don't leave her hanging on if you can't see yourself with her.
What the hell do i know if i can see myself doing that

shes the first

first thought id say yes

but im starting to see what my father has always warned me for

women adjusting to you long enough to get you attached, then showing their true colors
 
I have asked her, very seriously, if she feels I am too cold, too distant, too rational for her.

She thought about it well, she knew I was serious. She answered no, I see you as being open to me. I will ask her this again, seeing the new situation. I see myself as a separate unit to this whole world sometimes. I often talk without eye-contact, she often does silly things to get my attention and mock me. She smiles when she does this though, as though she finds it amusing. She´s said she likes the "sport" of keeping my attention. I have told I feel bad about having her play it.

I have always told her everything. everything. some things more than once.

I´m not going to give her a tribunal. I´m going to have a serious talk that is meant to find the root of things, with her feeling better and seeing more clearly as the objective. I will definately also discuss my role and what I do/did/are that makes her insecure.
 
bump.

I just fucking emailed my MOM about it

her reaction-

"Saw this coming. dont let it get your focus off your studies too much"
 
My mom wrote me a brilliant email, she really knows these things best.

her end conclusion was to probably end it as well
 
Hiatussin said:
My mom wrote me a brilliant email, she really knows these things best.

her end conclusion was to probably end it as well

nice job on the vids man.

good to see you coming around...

when it comes down to it, she basically told you what she is contemplating doing...

it is only a matter of time... it will happen. the question is whether you want to stick around until it happens, or get out while the getting is good.

compliments and karma again on the vids. you are a much better man than someone like killaflea.
 
I would dump her ass so fucking fast it's not even funny. She will probobly doing some crazy gangbang porn in few years.
 
Hiatussin said:
My mom wrote me a brilliant email, she really knows these things best.

her end conclusion was to probably end it as well

Good that you can communicate so openly with your mother!

Your mom rocks. :)

(And you do too for realizing it!)
 
Hiatussin said:
My mom wrote me a brilliant email, she really knows these things best.

her end conclusion was to probably end it as well
Wow. I never told my parents when I dated.
 
deco said:
I would dump her ass so fucking fast it's not even funny. She will probobly doing some crazy gangbang porn in few years.
That´s possible

She´s actually confessed to me she has gangbang fantasies, even about people she knows in real life

She also likes being called a whore during sex.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Good that you can communicate so openly with your mother!

Your mom rocks. :)

(And you do too for realizing it!)
Father and older sister too. Father and mother and sister and best friend all agree to get rid of her. As well advise her to seek councelling
 
she sent me an sms

sorry for hurting you
Im coming to realise what there is to lose
despite the things i kept from you, loving you has always been sincere
I hope i can win your trust back
see you soon

seeing her in about 6 hrs
 
Hiatussin said:
I am definately considering this aspect of it, and have discussed it with her.
SHE is the one who is convinced that I am superior to her. She gets down because she feels she´s too stupid to join in conversations I have with friends when she´s around (even if they are complete BS)
I tell her this, that I want her to be assertive and stand up for herself.
She puts me on a pedestal.

She was raised in a socialist home and i´m a libertarian and she doesn´t argue, she just feels

*she is stupid
*I am mean, intolerant and cold

whenever anything political passes discussion.

Older friends always told me to just not discuss politics with women, since it´s only trouble, but I didn´t want to evade it. It´s not something I put in her face it´s just there sometimes.
She obviously hasn't seen you being weak, admitting inadquacy(convincingly), or just plain being a dumb ass.
Do it. Do something stupid. Show her you're not as perfect as she thinks you are. Argue something opposite to what she knows is 100% true.
Then dress up like the teacher & fuck her silly. Eat lots of garlic & cabbage a couple hrs before. Seem weak, but make sure you bang the hell out of her. Snore.
 
HiDnGoD said:
She obviously hasn't seen you being weak, admitting inadquacy(convincingly), or just plain being a dumb ass.
Do it. Do something stupid. Show her you're not as perfect as she thinks you are. Argue something opposite to what she knows is 100% true.
Then dress up like the teacher & fuck her silly. Eat lots of garlic & cabbage a couple hrs before. Seem weak, but make sure you bang the hell out of her. Snore.
Since I´m with her I have

failed tests
made an ass out of myself in public
been fat
admitted flaws and weakness
been a bit depressed for a certain while

She still has me on a pedestal.
 
dude you're dating someone crazy, why let her pull you down. She belongs in a garbage can. Don't waste your time, her life is on a whole different road then yours.
 
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