What order would you place DBol, Winnie, and Proviron for worst hairloss.

[TerminatorX]

Hey brothers,

I was just interested in those unfortunate set of guys who have MPB (including myself) who have used DBol, winnie or proviron and which of these they have found to be the worst.

If you have used all three, place them in order of the worst first.

Much respect for replies.

Peace out

 

[geoboy]

proviron
winny
dbol

of course dose dependant (if you use 100 mg of dbol, and 1/4 tab proviron, results different) but at commonl;y used doses, above applies for me.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

proviron
dbol
winny

Again, it could vary from person to person.

 

[Bulk King]

I don't see why d-bol should be hard on the hairline, especially compared to DHT derived drugs. Arnold and the old boys still have their hair.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Bulk King, because it is a substrait for the alpha-5-reductase enzyme. Not all DHT derived drugs bind to DHT sites. Bear in mind they are direvatives of DHT and do not always posses the same properties, nor do all of them convert to DHT at the same rate. Arnold and alot of the old boys perhaps were not predisposed to male pattern baldness. If one is predisposed, test and d-bol certainly cause SOME hairloss, since they are substrate for the alpha-5-reductase enzyme and WILL elevate DHT levels.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Also bear in mind that Arnold didn't seem to have any signifigant gyno, but I wouldn't say that d-bol will not lead to gyno in another individual based on that.

 

[Bulk King]

Ok, this is from anabolics 2000.

While dianabol does convert to a more potent steriod via interaction with the 5-alpha reductase enzyme (the same enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to DHT), it has little or no affinity to do so in the human body. The androgenic metabolite 50alpha dihydromethandrstenolone is therefore produced only in trace amounts at best.

I still think d-bol will have little effect on MPB. Test is an entirely different story of course.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

True, I based my hairloss on my experience, but I think you are right about the d-bol. I was using test with it.

However does the metabolite still have the 17-methyl group attached? If so it would have a much longer halflife in the system then true DHT would (in theory at least). This is the same reason d-bol has such a pronounced estragenic effect, when it only aromatizes at half the rate of test. It produces a different estradoil than test due to the 17-aa nature.

Lets get more input from other guys on this one. bump

 

[bigAragorn]

For optimal hairloss combine the three..... oh and throw in some test at 750 a week.

i would say winny for me then proviron and then dbol.

 

[canadianhitman]

I lost hair on winny, but had no problems at all on D-bol.