What is the best for overall growth?

[BBig phenom]

I beleive that test. and I am also talking about size not how much water we can gain.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Test

though many will argue tren

and among individuals it will vary

 

[majutsu]

test

ideally test+deca will thick you up better, a classic

I found tren too cutting, good strength though

 

[Little Rage]

well test is a bad decision if you are looking for overall growth and not water. this is assuming you are not running anything with it.

 

[40butpumpin]

steak, eggs, and power cleans...and test too.

 

[BBig phenom]

well overall growth what is the best type of gear?

 

[solidspine]

In over all growth, meaning keepable gains, over a long period of time, Primo, growth, and test.

Primo used by inself over years, will give you excellent results.

 

[Little Rage]

primo and var

 

[needsize]

I never get anything from test alone, but when I combine it with my other favs like dbol, thats when I grow

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I never get anything from test alone, but when I combine it with my other favs like dbol, thats when I grow

you probably have high levels of SHBG and/or lower IGF.

both of which orals like dbol will impact