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What is Thanks Giving?

iamnikvanhelsing

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Before you all go screaming and shouting at me this is an honest question from a educational perspective.

As you can see I'm from the UK and of all the people I know and have ever asked nobody actually knows what thanks giving is, or what it's for!!! Can you enlighten me please???!!!

Cheers.
 
The Pilgrims off the Mayflower celebrated a feast with the Indians (native Americans) and it has stuck. At least that's what I remember from kindergarten. Can't you do google search?
 
Its a time to give thanks for your blessings, for fellowship with your friends and family, and to traditionally eat way tooo much good food. :)
 
its the yearly excuse to eat as much turkey as possible without guilt..
come on mate you should know this kinda stuff..
 
bbkingpinn said:
The Pilgrims off the Mayflower celebrated a feast with the Indians (native Americans) and it has stuck. At least that's what I remember from kindergarten. Can't you do google search?


This is why Americans celebrate it. I'm not sure why everyone else does.
 
So who else celebrates it then? I don't know of any european countries that do! Is it just a US/Canadian thing?

Really we know nothing about it over here!! We see films and stuff that are set near christmas time and families are celebrating thanksgiving and we all look at each other and say "so what exactly is thanksgiving then?"

Do you have a big Turkey christmas dinner on Dec 25th also? Thats when we do the whole eat, drink and be sick thing!!!

I think it's only America and Canada that have it, anyone else?
 
aww come on.. this is simple.. the english tried to take over the indians land.. the indians let them smoke on their "peace" pipe.. they all got the munchies.. made a ton of food.. and got along.. makes perfect sense to me.. now we all celebrate it as a holiday.. perfect excuse for everyone to get the munchies and pig out
 
iamnikvanhelsing said:
Do you have a big Turkey christmas dinner on Dec 25th also? Thats when we do the whole eat, drink and be sick thing!!!

I think it's only America and Canada that have it, anyone else?


Not sure about who else does it. Christmas is definitely a repeat performance. Alot of people do turkey, my family does country ham. Eat, drink, nap, repeat. I'm worthless from the end of Nov. thru the new year. About Jan. 2nd I'll get serious about fitness again b/c I'll look like a turd. :)
 
You asked . . .

" The Pilgrims who sailed to this country aboard the Mayflower were originally members of the English Separatist Church (a Puritan sect). They had earlier fled their home in England and sailed to Holland (The Netherlands) to escape religious persecution. There, they enjoyed more religious tolerance, but they eventually became disenchanted with the Dutch way of life, thinking it ungodly. Seeking a better life, the Separatists negotiated with a London stock company to finance a pilgrimage to America. Most of those making the trip aboard the Mayflower were non-Separatists, but were hired to protect the company's interests. Only about one-third of the original colonists were Separatists.
The Pilgrims set ground at Plymouth Rock on December 11, 1620. Their first winter was devastating. At the beginning of the following fall, they had lost 46 of the original 102 who sailed on the Mayflower. But the harvest of 1621 was a bountiful one. And the remaining colonists decided to celebrate with a feast -- including 91 Indians who had helped the Pilgrims survive their first year. It is believed that the Pilgrims would not have made it through the year without the help of the natives. The feast was more of a traditional English harvest festival than a true "thanksgiving" observance. It lasted three days.

Governor William Bradford sent "four men fowling" after wild ducks and geese. It is not certain that wild turkey was part of their feast. However, it is certain that they had venison. The term "turkey" was used by the Pilgrims to mean any sort of wild fowl.

Another modern staple at almost every Thanksgiving table is pumpkin pie. But it is unlikely that the first feast included that treat. The supply of flour had been long diminished, so there was no bread or pastries of any kind. However, they did eat boiled pumpkin, and they produced a type of fried bread from their corn crop. There was also no milk, cider, potatoes, or butter. There was no domestic cattle for dairy products, and the newly-discovered potato was still considered by many Europeans to be poisonous. But the feast did include fish, berries, watercress, lobster, dried fruit, clams, venison, and plums.

This "thanksgiving" feast was not repeated the following year. But in 1623, during a severe drought, the pilgrims gathered in a prayer service, praying for rain. When a long, steady rain followed the very next day, Governor Bradford proclaimed another day of Thanksgiving, again inviting their Indian friends. It wasn't until June of 1676 that another Day of Thanksgiving was proclaimed.

On June 20, 1676, the governing council of Charlestown, Massachusetts, held a meeting to determine how best to express thanks for the good fortune that had seen their community securely established. By unanimous vote they instructed Edward Rawson, the clerk, to proclaim June 29 as a day of thanksgiving. It is notable that this thanksgiving celebration probably did not include the Indians, as the celebration was meant partly to be in recognition of the colonists' recent victory over the "heathen natives," (see the proclamation).

October of 1777 marked the first time that all 13 colonies joined in a thanksgiving celebration. It also commemorated the patriotic victory over the British at Saratoga. But it was a one-time affair.

George Washington proclaimed a National Day of Thanksgiving in 1789, although some were opposed to it. There was discord among the colonies, many feeling the hardships of a few Pilgrims did not warrant a national holiday. And later, President Thomas Jefferson scoffed at the idea of having a day of thanksgiving.

It was Sarah Josepha Hale, a magazine editor, whose efforts eventually led to what we recognize as Thanksgiving. Hale wrote many editorials championing her cause in her Boston Ladies' Magazine, and later, in Godey's Lady's Book. Finally, after a 40-year campaign of writing editorials and letters to governors and presidents, Hale's obsession became a reality when, in 1863, President Lincoln proclaimed the last Thursday in November as a national day of Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving was proclaimed by every president after Lincoln. The date was changed a couple of times, most recently by Franklin Roosevelt, who set it up one week to the next-to-last Thursday in order to create a longer Christmas shopping season. Public uproar against this decision caused the president to move Thanksgiving back to its original date two years later. And in 1941, Thanksgiving was finally sanctioned by Congress as a legal holiday, as the fourth Thursday in November."

From the Thanksgiving Story online @ http://wilstar.com/holidays/thankstr.htm
 
the funny thing is a couple days ago me and my girl got in a cab and said to the driver " man it must suck that your wirking on thanks giveing" and he was like " that is your holiday not mine" we are in germany at present.
 
So who else celebrates it then? I don't know of any european countries that do! Is it just a US/Canadian thing?

Really we know nothing about it over here!! We see films and stuff that are set near christmas time and families are celebrating thanksgiving and we all look at each other and say "so what exactly is thanksgiving then?"

Do you have a big Turkey christmas dinner on Dec 25th also? Thats when we do the whole eat, drink and be sick thing!!!

I think it's only America and Canada that have it, anyone else?




It is an American Holiday!
 
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