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What is IBM Websphere?
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Happy?? Matt??
AA, this link may help,
http://www.brijconnects.com/pages/sub_websphere.html
Happy?? Matt?? AA, this link may help,
http://www.brijconnects.com/pages/sub_websphere.html
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Application, file and web server.
It sucks major ass.
It sucks major ass.
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Well, if they focus too much, just ask them if it adheres to IEEE standards. And if the cost fits their business model better than some of the less expensive or open source solutions.
You guys are going to hate me for this. But I don't have a clue to what that technical jargon is that you are speaking.
Give me another example. Or better yet, tell me an application that does the same thing but ONLY BETTER. It seems the general consensus here is that WebSphere stinks.
Give me another example. Or better yet, tell me an application that does the same thing but ONLY BETTER. It seems the general consensus here is that WebSphere stinks.
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Something better than Websphere?
Netscape Application Server, now known as iPlanet.
It's better because it's 100% based on IEEE standards, slightly less expensive, more intuitive and works easier with more platforms.
Apache, is free and requires an apache guru to do as much as the above. It's not intuitive at all and requires constant work to stay up. But since it's free, it's a top pick.
Netscape Application Server, now known as iPlanet.
It's better because it's 100% based on IEEE standards, slightly less expensive, more intuitive and works easier with more platforms.
Apache, is free and requires an apache guru to do as much as the above. It's not intuitive at all and requires constant work to stay up. But since it's free, it's a top pick.
HappyScrappy
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weblogic is another one.
they are all pretty much the same.
apache is known to be a fast webserver (well, one of the fastest, and it depends what you are serving), but Tomcat is THE slowest app server available - it is more of a learning tool than anything.
IBM actually makes the fastest Java VM out there that is actually faster than both Sun's VM (that's embarassing for them I'll bet) as well as even compiling natively.
that said, not sure how much of that websphere makes use of since any app server will let you use any VM AFAIK
what is funny is that java is supposed to be totally platform dependant, but in J2EE, in order to use any of the appservers, some of your code is going to be DB and Appserver dependant - so you have to changed that for other cases of it.
furtunately most everyone uses Oracle for J2EE stuff so the DB thing isn't as big an issue.
they are all pretty much the same.
apache is known to be a fast webserver (well, one of the fastest, and it depends what you are serving), but Tomcat is THE slowest app server available - it is more of a learning tool than anything.
IBM actually makes the fastest Java VM out there that is actually faster than both Sun's VM (that's embarassing for them I'll bet) as well as even compiling natively.
that said, not sure how much of that websphere makes use of since any app server will let you use any VM AFAIK
what is funny is that java is supposed to be totally platform dependant, but in J2EE, in order to use any of the appservers, some of your code is going to be DB and Appserver dependant - so you have to changed that for other cases of it.
furtunately most everyone uses Oracle for J2EE stuff so the DB thing isn't as big an issue.
john937
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Websphere lets you write java apps to be run in a web environment,
but then lets the administrator configure at run time how many servers it runs on and change the runtime configuration while still up.
You see one url address, but under the covers the application could be running on one or 40 different machines.
Say, you're writing several integrated apps to run the Olympics.
It needs to stay up all the time regardless of any hardware problems on any one individual machine.
If one of the application servers needs maintenance, the administrator can take that server down, while the rest of the WebSphere cluster remains in service.
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That said, if you're writing a small app that fits neatly on one server, then WebSphere is overkill.
but then lets the administrator configure at run time how many servers it runs on and change the runtime configuration while still up.
You see one url address, but under the covers the application could be running on one or 40 different machines.
Say, you're writing several integrated apps to run the Olympics.
It needs to stay up all the time regardless of any hardware problems on any one individual machine.
If one of the application servers needs maintenance, the administrator can take that server down, while the rest of the WebSphere cluster remains in service.
...
That said, if you're writing a small app that fits neatly on one server, then WebSphere is overkill.
Puc
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dont run iPlanet in NT!!!!!
fucking thing integrates horribly.
also
The migration path is horrible (NES 3.6 ldap does NOT migrate to 4.1. they are fucking with you if they tell you that.)
Not only that, iPlanet support is 9-5 now. there is no service available (even if you pay) during off hours.
fucking thing integrates horribly.
also
The migration path is horrible (NES 3.6 ldap does NOT migrate to 4.1. they are fucking with you if they tell you that.)
Not only that, iPlanet support is 9-5 now. there is no service available (even if you pay) during off hours.
HappyScrappy
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Puc said:
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for java?
ummm - no
Island Son
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Simple example:Anal AssPlorer said:
The average web page is HTML. You write it like a document, put it on a web server, and there it is. Always the same thing.
But let's say you have a catalog. Since you don't want to write 5000+ different pages, you want to have one page which can just search the whole catalog. Now you've moved from a web page to a web application. So you need to write a program that runs on your web server, takes in the search question and creates a web page on the fly with the answer.
There's a lot of different programming languages to write that program in, depending on how busy the site is, how complex the program(s) will be, education/experience/time of the programmer, and of course money. To run the program, you need another piece of software called an application server. Like WebSphere.
WebSphere is expensive because it can handle extremely complex programs.
That's as dumb as I can make it,
, hope it's clear now.FYI my company's using it with no problems, installing it the first couple of times was the biggest bitch, but now we've got that fully documented so it'll be easy on the next machine.
win2K, iPlanet webserver, WebSphere app server serving up jsp's applets and servlets, orbacus naming service. Next project will be extending this to use ejb's.
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