What happened to character?

[big4life]

A person's character used to mean something, now it's almost like if you have character it's considered a weakness.

If you stand up for someone people think that you are kissing their butt.

If you stand up for your beliefs, you are a troublemaker.

If you run a company and cook the books to make it appear like you are making a profit, it's OK, because everyone does it.

Maybe it's like someone told me, I was born a hundred years too late. Maybe I do belong in another time.

 

[dballer]

it ok Big... I will post some private stuff TheYork said to cheer you up.

 

[Citruscide]

It ain't just you brotha... I feel the same way. Values are a little skewed these days... there are probably a million explinations for it, but no excuse. I just do what I do and let the rest fall where it may...

C

 

[HumorMe]

I'm with you big!

Character is no longer a quality.

 

[Burning_Inside]

well there used to be a thick line when determining values up intil maybe the past few decades when more and more people stopped following the traditional christian values in America. Now we have many more people who simply don't believe and don't care for what you believe in/care about.

I think America's going to be going through a tough time in the next few decades as baby boomers and gen x,y,and z and whatever else is out there learn lessons in tolerance.

 

[Prometheus]

character? HA - that's so pre-clinton...

 

[PHATchik]

I agree. Character is no longer something that people strive for. They could care less what happens to their character.

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

cash is more important than character... we live in greedy times

 

[The Ranger]

Trudat....Money is not the root of evil, the lack of is however.....

Ranger

 

[strider364]

It seems as if working hard for what you want is looked down upon also. Truly trying times for stand up individuals. My .02.

 

[big4life]

I guess I am old fashioned.

 

[The Shadow]

Character to me is:

Standing by your ideals....even when it is convenient to do so...

 

[HumorMe]

I guess I am old fashioned.

You aren't alone.....maybe we are not in a class by ourselves but it doesn't take long to call the roll!

 

[Norman Bates]

A person's character used to mean something, now it's almost like if you have character it's considered a weakness.

I was born a hundred years too late. Maybe I do belong in another time

I don´t think it was ever like that. 100 years ago people had just as much character as they have (or don´t have) today

 

[big4life]

Re: Re: What happened to character?

I don´t think it was ever like that. 100 years ago people had just as much character as they have (or don´t have) today

Maybe they did, I don't know. All I do know is that I don't see a whole lot of honor or respect in the world now, and I think that is truly sad.

 

[naturally anabolic]

Character died along with Chivalry and Romance, lost arts still only practiced by a select and rare few.

 

[Norman Bates]

Character died along with Chivalry and Romance, lost arts still only practiced by a select and rare few.

Talking about chivalry, shining knights were only friendly to the women of others, it was perfectly socially acceptable for them to beat their own wives.

 

[Silent Method]

Character died along with Chivalry and Romance, lost arts still only practiced by a select and rare few.

As a cultural value, character, along with chivalry and romance, has died due to blind servitude to political correctness.


Hey Norm, just curious - how many "shining knights" from the days of old did you know? Our concept of knighthood is perverted towards the moral ideal I agree. But one cannot rightly draw such general conclusions embracing an immoral characteristic of mankind and apply it to a specific social group - especially when talking about generations so long passed.

 

[Norman Bates]

Hey Norm, just curious - how many "shining knights" from the days of old did you know? Our concept of knighthood is perverted towards the moral ideal I agree. But one cannot rightly draw such general conclusions embracing an immoral characteristic of mankind and apply it to a specific social group - especially when talking about generations so long passed.

I asked Wodin...

Seriously, it was in an article about medieval life from some professor.

 

[Silent Method]

I asked Wodin...

Seriously, it was in an article about medieval life from some professor.

Gottcha. I understood your point and it was valid as well. We are often taught that in the past, societies adhered to moral ideals to a much greater degree than present societies. (Just like my Mom used to tell me she never fought with her little brother when they were little - yeah right.) This is not always the case.

I don't think you can develop a force of trained warriors and not expect some of them to like thumping people. Regardless of culture and prevalent values, human nature is human nature.

 

[huntmaster]

What happened to Character?

Hollywood and Billy Clinton happened

$$$$$$$ Money is more important now. many said so when they said that they would still rather have Clinton as Pres b/c they (thought) he made the tech boom and the great economy of the mid to late 90's

Hollywood sets the tone for much of America. Many shallow fools get their basis of reality from TV and Movies and Music. Like it or not--its the truth.

I'll tell you what else happened to Character---Character left the priority list when liberals found out that they could re-write the constitution and put stuff like "the seperationn of church and state" that they wish was in there originally--but was not.

The 60's happened to Character. Ever since the 60's we have deginerated.

NO one wants to take responsibility for their actions anymore--it is much easier to rationalize matters and ask what the meaning of "is" is.

man its sad aint it

 

[Norman Bates]

Re: What happened to Character?

I'll tell you what else happened to Character---Character left the priority list when liberals found out that they could re-write the constitution and put stuff like "the seperationn of church and state" that they wish was in there originally--but was not.

There was a time when church and state were not seperated, that was the time of inquisition, witch hunting and crusades.

The people that were responsible for that were highly educated in theology and probably knew the bible by heart.

Christians shouldn´t claim morality as their own and blame the lack of moral on the separation of church and state.

 

[huntmaster]

say man, Ill make a deal with you.

You let me answer this question for the man who posted the question the best I can

and I wont put words in your mouth.

I stand for freedom of religion--not freedom from religion.

we have turned full circle from what the(founding fathers)intended

this is obvious--there is no need for debate

 

[Taps]

To quote my avatar: "Character doesn't matter."



Personally, I have no morals to speak of, and I generally consider myself to be of low-character -- but at least I'm honest about it.
Look at how many self-rightious people there are out there. They go on and on about "morals and values" and then go home and beat the shit out of thier kids.

 

[Silent Method]

Look at how many self-rightious people there are out there. They go on and on about "morals and values" and then go home and beat the shit out of thier kids.

Yeah, just look at how many. Maybe I can be one of those people too! The logic of sheep...

 

[huntmaster]

do you have an oppinion on the question at hand or are you just interested in stereotyping as does taps?

 

[Silent Method]

do you have an oppinion on the question at hand or are you just interested in stereotyping as does taps?

To whom are you refering?

 

[Island Son]

We have become a get-rich-quick, fast-food, instant-gratification society, and it becomes more apparent every day that the constant (and therefore ever-increasing) advertising is having a severe impact.

Personality and "people skills" can be faked until the audience's ever-shorter attention span is over. Look them in the eye, firm grip, straight posture, power colors.

Character and integrity takes time, a lifetime of conscious good choices and sincerely regretted bad ones.

When is "Life for dummies" coming out?

 

[huntmaster]

To whom are you refering?

you, sir.

 

[Silent Method]

do you have an oppinion on the question at hand or are you just interested in stereotyping as does taps?

Obviously you missed my point. Mine was a satirical comment regarding my impression of Taps' post. My take on his post was that the message was analog to saying "I'm a morally corrupt person. Some people claim to be moral but are in fact wicked. Therefore, it's acceptable for me to be morally corrupt as long as I do not pretend to be honorable."

Being a fellow conservative I'd have thought you would recognize this logic for what I had labeled it as - the logic of sheep as perpetuated by the liberal mindset.

Indeed the world is full of many self-righteous yet wicked people.

Huntmaster, may I ask, what exactly is your argument with my point?

 

[theoak01]

im with you guys who should have been born long ago,i liek working hard for a living,believe in respecting elders,helping people in need

not all this hate etc

this is why im so anti social ,stay in generally 7 nights a week and only go out with my girlfriend and a select few who i can stand

 

[huntmaster]

Huntmaster, may I ask, what exactly is your argument with my point?

no argument---just trying to figure out where you stand.

maybe I am not the sharpest--I thought you may have ment that to be sarcastic--but was not sure. I am not a big fan of assumptions--so I try to avoid them.

sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[aurelius]

A person's character used to mean something, now it's almost like if you have character it's considered a weakness.

If you stand up for someone people think that you are kissing their butt.

If you stand up for your beliefs, you are a troublemaker.

If you run a company and cook the books to make it appear like you are making a profit, it's OK, because everyone does it.

Maybe it's like someone told me, I was born a hundred years too late. Maybe I do belong in another time.

What exactly are you talking about?

 

[aurelius]

say man, Ill make a deal with you.

You let me answer this question for the man who posted the question the best I can

and I wont put words in your mouth.

I stand for freedom of religion--not freedom from religion.

we have turned full circle from what the(founding fathers)intended

this is obvious--there is no need for debate

What did the founding fathers intend?