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what does all natural mean??????????

wootoom

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i know people that say they dont do steroids they are natural. but i dont get it. im not competing in sports that makes it illegal. am i cheating myself if i choose to do steroids??? i dont think so.
 
wootoom said:
i know people that say they dont do steroids they are natural. but i dont get it. im not competing in sports that makes it illegal. am i cheating myself if i choose to do steroids??? i dont think so.

I am natty - that means no juice for me.... but to each his own tho bro... I give equal respect to either enhanced or natural peeps...

I believe you should remember which is which, the natty guy definitely has a harder trail to forge, it does not mean I don't give accomplished enhanced athletes their due respect...

either route takes hard work to achieve real success...

also once you go AAS - IMO you will NEVER be natural, even if you lay off a few years...
 
why do steroids have to be the cutoff point between "natural"?

thats fuckin retarded. it should be more specific, as in either i don't take steroids or do.

nothing in bodybuilding is really "natural". supplements are performance enhancers any way you look at it..steroids just happen to be stronger and more expensive and illegal.
 
calveless wonder said:
why do steroids have to be the cutoff point between "natural"?

thats fuckin retarded. it should be more specific, as in either i don't take steroids or do.

nothing in bodybuilding is really "natural". supplements are performance enhancers any way you look at it..steroids just happen to be stronger and more expensive and illegal.

Amen to that. Make the argument "legal" or "illegal" not natural.
Taking 10g of creatine a day is not natural. You would have to eat ass loads of steak to get that amount. But if you mix it in your grape juice you're still natural?
 
gigantasor said:
All natural means "never been caught" ;)

Yep! I was in Indonesia and me Muscle Mania competitor Ade Rai. The boy is phenomemal condition. Hats off to the guy. Good personality and a class act. He absolutely denies AAS usage and promotes "all natural" body building.

It was kind of funny though, all of his buddies at the gym were all showing major sides such as acne, hair loss and gyno.
 
All natural means you stop juicing long enough before the test so you don't get caught. All natural is the fat guy you see at the the bus stop everyday on your way to work.
 
(nat·u·ral)

1. Present in or produced by nature: a natural pearl. (Personally, I think this would pertain to all of us!)

2. Of, relating to, or concerning nature: a natural environment.

3. Conforming to the usual or ordinary course of nature: a natural birth or death. (In who's eyes?)

4. a. Not acquired; inherent: Love of power is natural to some people. b. Having a particular character by nature: a natural leader. c. Biology Not produced or changed artificially; not conditioned: natural immunity; a natural reflex. (This basically rules out all bodybuilders as natural!)

5. Characterized by spontaneity and freedom from artificiality, affectation, or inhibitions. See Synonyms at naive.

6. Not altered, treated, or disguised: natural coloring; natural produce. (Damn, knocks us all out again!)

7. Faithfully representing nature or life.

8. Expected and accepted: "In Willie's mind marriage remained the natural and logical sequence to love". (Definitely not!)

9. Established by moral certainty or conviction: natural rights.

10. Being in a state regarded as primitive, uncivilized, or unregenerate. (Well, this would allow some of us guys who use illegal substances the ability to still call themselves natural then! :D

11. a. Related by blood: the natural parents of the child. b. Born of unwed parents: a natural child.

12. Mathematics Of or relating to positive integers, sometimes including zero.

13. Music a. Not sharped or flatted. b. Having no sharps or flats.

Shit, I don't know sounds like we all have a little bit of natural in us no matter what and we all have a little bit of unnatural in us no matter what.
 
Natural can NOT equal not using gear because you can compete "naturally" as long as you do not test positive. I could use for the next 5 years..keep lifting but stop using for 2 years and compete naturally. So for me it means that I have no outside anabolic influeneces at the present time. Although this is my definition it bothers me at the same time. This guy in my gym used for about 15 years and hasn't in 5 and compete's naturally but he always tells people he is all natural like he never used.
 
halfaclue said:
Natural can NOT equal not using gear because you can compete "naturally" as long as you do not test positive. I could use for the next 5 years..keep lifting but stop using for 2 years and compete naturally. So for me it means that I have no outside anabolic influeneces at the present time. Although this is my definition it bothers me at the same time. This guy in my gym used for about 15 years and hasn't in 5 and compete's naturally but he always tells people he is all natural like he never used.

Doesn't matter how YOU interpret it, the question was posed asking for the definition. In bodybuilding contests, the majority of the ones I have done are one year. Some are three years and others are five..........they also make you pay for your own polygraph test, if you place high enough.........I think I have a solid link..........

http://www.skiplacour.com/drugfreemean.htm


:supercool
 
im with satch. in the world of casual bodybuilding (ie non competition) it just means no roids or prohormones to me.

once you have used, then youre no longer natural, UNLESS you stop training or something and get to a condition equal to, or worse tahn your best ever natural condition, in which case i would say youre at your previous natural size, and so you can continue to train drug free and still be considered natural in my book
 
GoldenDelicious said:
im with satch. in the world of casual bodybuilding (ie non competition) it just means no roids or prohormones to me.

once you have used, then youre no longer natural, UNLESS you stop training or something and get to a condition equal to, or worse tahn your best ever natural condition, in which case i would say youre at your previous natural size, and so you can continue to train drug free and still be considered natural in my book


That is an interesting way of looking at it. ;)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
im with satch. in the world of casual bodybuilding (ie non competition) it just means no roids or prohormones to me.

once you have used, then youre no longer natural

I agree with the above excerpt as stated previously...

as far as comps go - you can say whatever you want as long as you test clean - it is YOUR reputation on the line, not mine... but I hope that people could at least be honest about their true status here...
 
Becoming said:
I agree with the above excerpt as stated previously...

as far as comps go - you can say whatever you want as long as you test clean - it is YOUR reputation on the line, not mine... but I hope that people could at least be honest about their true status here...
AND, you can pass a poly...............
 
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