what did i do wrong

[sparkant]

hey guys , just into week 3 of pct after my first ever cycle of test e 250mg a week and deca 200mg a week i gained around 14lb in my 8 week cycle i ate well and previously posted my diet on here and got good feedback , my pct was 1500iu hcg eod for 1 week (3 shots) i waited 3 weeks after last test e shot before hcg and then 50mg clomid and 20 mg of nolvadex every day i have 1 week left but i have already lost 6lb and a couple of reps on my major lifts . i have noticed however that the extremely bloated midsection i had has gone even more so than before the cycle, so is it just the bloat that has gone ? the muscular girths that increased have remained the same but not sure if 6lb loss is normal or something i did .

 

[marcu_s]

deca can bloat a bit...but u should have run that atleast 12 weeks or so.
dont know so much about it but i think its recomended to run it atlest 10-12 weeks.
the strength goes down a bit after cycle offcoures, depending on pct and diet it can be less.
i dont like long esters beacause it takes some time to clear before u can start pct, and whitin that time/weeks youre "on the low" and u can loose some amount muscle (depending on diet and supps offcourse)
short esters clear whitin days and u can begin therapy, not much "low time" there.

also more recomended to take hcg during cycle,rather than after.

 

[bigmodean]

I start hcg about 5-7 days after last shot, 500iu ed for 10 days, then run clomid for 3 weeks after that,100mg first 7 days, then 50mg for next 14 days, may be old school, but it works for me.

 

[goin on 4T]

It was bloat/water. No worries, if I were you I would run 2/1 test to deca, so 400mg test and 200mg of deca. Also 1,500IU's of HCG for the first shot then 250-500 every 4 days.

 

[sparkant]

It was bloat/water. No worries, if I were you I would run 2/1 test to deca, so 400mg test and 200mg of deca. Also 1,500IU's of HCG for the first shot then 250-500 every 4 days.

thanks pal, the only problem is that my hcg comes in boxes of 3 1500iu and 3 sterile water , how could i run such small amounts without wasting loads ?

 

[goin on 4T]

Is the hcg in vials or amps?

 

[hesnobradpitt]

You said you waited 3 wks before you started hcg .... thats to long.

You have to fit the hcg all in the following 2 wks after your last shot and then start pct 2 wks after last test shot .

I would do this have last test shot wait 3 days do your first hcg then wait 3 days second hcg shot then 3 days last hcg shot then 3 days start pct clomid 50ed for 3 wks.


Brad.

 

[sparkant]

Is the hcg in vials or amps?

Amps

 

[goin on 4T]

With amps you should draw into a 3ml syringe barrel and then pull the needle out and draw from there. The solution will be good for 3 weeks once recon'ed I beleive.

 

[sparkant]

hey guys , just into week 3 of pct after my first ever cycle of test e 250mg a week and deca 200mg a week i gained around 14lb in my 8 week cycle i ate well and previously posted my diet on here and got good feedback , my pct was 1500iu hcg eod for 1 week (3 shots) i waited 3 weeks after last test e shot before hcg and then 50mg clomid and 20 mg of nolvadex every day i have 1 week left but i have already lost 6lb and a couple of reps on my major lifts . i have noticed however that the extremely bloated midsection i had has gone even more so than before the cycle, so is it just the bloat that has gone ? the muscular girths that increased have remained the same but not sure if 6lb loss is normal or something i did .

Quick update , i finished nolva 2 weeks ago and now feel like poo -low libido , (The fellas are back upto size and the sausage works when i feel like it) low intensity level / motivation in the gym -however myself and wife and children are just out of a virus that lasted 2 weeks with all symptoms you can think of so it maybe down to this . my question is - where do i go from here , my doc would only do liver, cholestorol, bloodwork so i dont know where my T levels are , i do however get morning wood when i wake up naturally (no alarm clock) -so what do i do - my freinds respond with "do another pct" go back on your next cycle and do better pct" or get some proviron to pick me up or maybe i should just wait a couple more weeks , see how i feel then - its worth noting i was never "Full of energy " before my cycle and one freind says it may just be a mental thing as my nuts are back up to size so my T levels should be normal - Please Help Guys