What can't be outsourced?

[EnderJE]

If call center type of jobs can be outsource and accounting jobs can be outsourced, then can't you say that all types of white collar jobs can eventually be outsources because labour overseas is cheaper? Couldn't you say that the next Jack Welsh could be Indian or Chinese? If so, then what is left for the first world?

I'm guessing trades (ala Stone Masonary) but I thought I would put it to the group.

 

[75th]

Prostitution.

 

[Gambino]

building trades

 

[genetic freak]

I work for an "outsourcing" provider, and guess what.... WE OUTSOURCE!!!!!

 

[BrothaBill]

Outsourcing is like a tax cut for Americans.
Nothing but menial stuff is really outsourced, yet when it does, it brings potential hostile nations towards us closer into our way of thinking.
Its a carrot-stick type of deal.

Now, the jobs that cant be outsourced are service jobs and well. We pay the best in the world and so the reverse scenario occurs that the "Brain Drain" occurs where we take the best people in the world and move them here and pay them well. That's Ralph Nader's arguments and other liberals against this type of thing.

Remember, the Soviet Union was only a military force until their abducted German Scientists died.

The brain is the US in technological terms. The skills and labor lost are made up in the long term. Labor is cheap, its the smarts that cost money. Thats why the US outsources idiotic jobs of people that dont want to study in the US, the competive factor is that their is a hardworking person thatll do it cheaper. In the meantime, the American vision is spread around the world and a fraction of the cost of a world war

 

[EnderJE]

Outsourcing is like a tax cut for Americans.
Nothing but menial stuff is really outsourced, yet when it does, it brings potential hostile nations towards us closer into our way of thinking.
Its a carrot-stick type of deal.

Now, the jobs that cant be outsourced are service jobs and well. We pay the best in the world and so the reverse scenario occurs that the "Brain Drain" occurs where we take the best people in the world and move them here and pay them well. That's Ralph Nader's arguments and other liberals against this type of thing.

Remember, the Soviet Union was only a military force until their abducted German Scientists died.

The brain is the US in technological terms. The skills and labor lost are made up in the long term. Labor is cheap, its the smarts that cost money. Thats why the US outsources idiotic jobs of people that dont want to study in the US, the competive factor is that their is a hardworking person thatll do it cheaper. In the meantime, the American vision is spread around the world and a fraction of the cost of a world war

For now, but I'm thinking that eventually other countries will be able to compete for the non-idiotic jobs. Sure, there's is the "brain drain"; but not everyone in a third world can afford to come to the US.

Hence, they could start up their own thing over there and charge a fraction of the price.

 

[BrothaBill]

For now, but I'm thinking that eventually other countries will be able to compete for the non-idiotic jobs. Sure, there's is the "brain drain"; but not everyone in a third world can afford to come to the US.

Hence, they could start up their own thing over there and charge a fraction of the price.

We are decades ahead of any real competitor on the world stage. Economies of scale, production, filling a boot type of job. Yeah, that'll go overseas as it should where medical costs and other issues make the end product cheaper to be sold back to the US citizens.
But, its all part of making America stronger and the US more secure. Exporting American industrialization, training them, paying them and getting cheap products back in return and also boosting their understanding and bettering themselves is the best way in the long run.
Soon, it'll be like Star Trek and none of this will matter.
I wouldnt worry too much about outsourcing. Theyll always be a buttwiper position open as Americans age. I think that'll pay more, as it should, than any industrial job

 

[EnderJE]

We are decades ahead of any real competitor on the world stage. Economies of scale, production, filling a boot type of job. Yeah, that'll go overseas as it should where medical costs and other issues make the end product cheaper to be sold back to the US citizens.
But, its all part of making America stronger and the US more secure. Exporting American industrialization, training them, paying them and getting cheap products back in return and also boosting their understanding and bettering themselves is the best way in the long run.
Soon, it'll be like Star Trek and none of this will matter.
I wouldnt worry too much about outsourcing. Theyll always be a buttwiper position open as Americans age. I think that'll pay more, as it should, than any industrial job

I dunno about that. I think that the holodeck will be man's LAST invention. Once we have those, crack will seem like chicklets.

 

[Gambino]

i wanna hire a butt wiper

 

[javaguru]

Outsourcing is like a tax cut for Americans.
Nothing but menial stuff is really outsourced, yet when it does, it brings potential hostile nations towards us closer into our way of thinking.
Its a carrot-stick type of deal.

Now, the jobs that cant be outsourced are service jobs and well. We pay the best in the world and so the reverse scenario occurs that the "Brain Drain" occurs where we take the best people in the world and move them here and pay them well. That's Ralph Nader's arguments and other liberals against this type of thing.

Remember, the Soviet Union was only a military force until their abducted German Scientists died.

The brain is the US in technological terms. The skills and labor lost are made up in the long term. Labor is cheap, its the smarts that cost money. Thats why the US outsources idiotic jobs of people that dont want to study in the US, the competive factor is that their is a hardworking person thatll do it cheaper. In the meantime, the American vision is spread around the world and a fraction of the cost of a world war

Software development has become heavily outsourced to the third world and it's hardly menial. I compete against Indian companies that bid a project for $10.00 an hour. Contract US developers charge $45.00+ an hour and a full fledged US software company would charge between $75.00-$120.00 an hour. The only job safe from outsourcing are the ones requiring you to be on site, most white collar jobs don't. India has more colleges than any other country in the world; The University of Toledo gives fee waivers to foreign students who often return to their own countries with knowledge paid for by US taxpayers. As a matter of fact, when my ex-wife was in the MBA program she was in classes with 1/3 Indian students and not one was paying for their college education, they all had fee waivers. She was so angry she went to the department chair and sat in his office until he gave her a waiver too.

 

[EnderJE]

Software development has become heavily outsourced to the third world and it's hardly menial. I compete against Indian companies that bid a project for $10.00 an hour. Contract US developers charge $45.00+ an hour and a full fledged US software company would charge between $75.00-$120.00 an hour. The only job safe from outsourcing are the ones requiring you to be on site, most white collar jobs don't. India has more colleges than any other country in the world; The University of Toledo gives fee waivers to foreign students who often return to their own countries with knowledge paid for by US taxpayers. As a matter of fact, when my ex-wife was in the MBA program she was in classes with 1/3 Indian students and not one was paying for their college education, they all had fee waivers. She was so angry she went to the department chair and sat in his office until he gave her a waiver too.

But, my understanding is that the indian software developers are making mistakes due to cultural issues. For example, they don't necessarily challenge or clarify the specs put forth.

 

[javaguru]

But, my understanding is that the indian software developers are making mistakes due to cultural issues. For example, they don't necessarily challenge or clarify the specs put forth.

They also have design issues that don't account for extensability. However, US businesses are still lured in by the cheap price. At my last company, I worked on several "disaster recoveries" for one of our fortune 1,000 clients. They ended up paying twice as much by going through the cheap Indian company; We had to totally scrap and re-write the software. Ninety percent of the cost for a piece of software comes from support and not the initial development. Even having paid twice as much for the development, the software I wrote will save them a lot in support because it's very exstensible without our intervention. Even after this experience the company in question STILL outsourced other projects to India. In corporate America profits for the next quarter are more important than efficiency or profitability over the next ten or twenty years.

 

[Dial_tone]

desktop support and system administration will always require someobdy onsite to reboot a server or show some luser how to get back his Office toolbar for the 535th time.

 

[nycgirl]

Lawyers & Paralegals

 

[AAP]

i wanna hire a butt wiper

Hey Bitch,

If you watch www.hotspotsmagazine.com you can actually find people willing to do that for free.

 

[saint808]

actually I worked for a company that had techinical support outsourced... that was smart... especially when they try and walk you through it and you only have one server to reboot and the girl working asks "what's a server?" Service industries and very blue collar are the only jobs that will stay eventuallly... and the construction jobs will be given to illegal immigrants...

 

[Mammoth2500]

Pretty much anything can be out sourced but provinces, states etc will give the company some breaks by keeping the business is town. But as you can see nothing can match those dedicated workers waiting to get paid their bag of rice.

 

[Hiatussin]

Medical care can´t really be outsourced. it can be imported though

 

[*MissFit*]

our department rceptionist tries to outsource all her duties to me.. its kinda cute