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What are the limits of all these records?

Robert Jan

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Are we already seeing asymptotes in some sports?

What record that stands today do you think will stand the longest?
 
Robert Jan said:
Are we already seeing asymptotes in some sports?

What record that stands today do you think will stand the longest?

There have to be theoretical limits to any track/field/swimming event. Butmy answer is "it depends".

The question you're asking though - records will never cease to be broken. The margins by which they are broken should probably decrease, although as the body becomes better understood, performance and supplementation will improve.

Roger Bannister's 4 minute mile is nothing now, the record is like 3:43...in less than 50 years. In 50 more years, however, is a 3:20 possible? CAn human bones and muscle do that?

Consider also that Mark Spitz's 7-gold performance times would now not win a high school meet; likewise Jesse Owens.

However, in 1988, Ben Johnson won the gold (on steroids) with a 9.79. That smashed the then-record 9.93. Today, the record has been lowered to 9.79 (legally). This is an example where you are seeing asymptotes - a 3:20 mile will happen before a 8.5 second 100m dash.

Records will never stop being broken. The margins will shrink. In some events we are already there.
 
All sports, or olympic sports?

I agree with Matt, as training improves and science/tech. improves records will continue to fall. Eventually they should reach a point where they will fall less often and by very, very minute margins. For example, track records will eventually get to a point where they will be nearly impossible to beat.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
There have to be theoretical limits to any track/field/swimming event. Butmy answer is "it depends".

The question you're asking though - records will never cease to be broken. The margins by which they are broken should probably decrease, although as the body becomes better understood, performance and supplementation will improve.

Roger Bannister's 4 minute mile is nothing now, the record is like 3:43...in less than 50 years. In 50 more years, however, is a 3:20 possible? CAn human bones and muscle do that?

Consider also that Mark Spitz's 7-gold performance times would now not win a high school meet; likewise Jesse Owens.

However, in 1988, Ben Johnson won the gold (on steroids) with a 9.79. That smashed the then-record 9.93. Today, the record has been lowered to 9.79 (legally). This is an example where you are seeing asymptotes - a 3:20 mile will happen before a 8.5 second 100m dash.

Records will never stop being broken. The margins will shrink. In some events we are already there.

Excellent points with the exception of the 100m dash record being lowered to 9.79 legally. Just because these juice monkeys aren't being caught.......... ;)
 
Robert Jan said:
its legal because they passed the tests obviously

Doesn't mean they aren't cheating. Everyone knows damn well every man standing on the starting line of the 100m final at the Olympics is juiced to the gills.
 
well yes.

weightlifting is just as bad or worse

notice how the records are hardly being broken this olympics? they upgraded the tests.
 
bluepeter said:
Doesn't mean they aren't cheating. Everyone knows damn well every man standing on the starting line of the 100m final at the Olympics is juiced to the gills.

yeah, but they only test the Canadians. LOL
 
The women are closing the gap faster on the men faster than the men are setting new records... (obviously they are closer in terms of endurance rather than strenght events)

Also note some things may come along to change and set a new standard (like I think someone was talking about how they significantly changed a swimming technique which led to a slew of new records)

I think sometimes the barrier is mental rather than physical performance...

Michael Johnson smashing the 200 record was awesome to see - I was watchin and saw the time and was thinking "that can't be right".... it was amazing seeing it as it happened...

But otherwise I think the margins are shrinking and it is becoming more competitive in a lot of events (3-5 people potential winners, rather than just 1)

I don't think it will come close to peaking out in our lifetimes tho... (we will continue to see records fall at a regular rate)
 
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