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I did.
My penis kept falling off. But there was this nice little old lady with a wheel chair that has a hemy and dubs on it that kept following me around and handing it back to me so that I could have something to play with.
I maintain that farts are funny.
My penis kept falling off. But there was this nice little old lady with a wheel chair that has a hemy and dubs on it that kept following me around and handing it back to me so that I could have something to play with.
I maintain that farts are funny.
casavant
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I take adderall when I can get it. The only difference I noticed when I take it now that I'm on Wellbutrin is that the rush of euphoria isn't quite as strong, probably because my circulating levels of dopamine are more close to normal then they were before so it's not so much like opening a flood gate.
Wellbutrin is the shit though. It's increased the quality of my day-to-day existence profoundly.
Wellbutrin is the shit though. It's increased the quality of my day-to-day existence profoundly.
musclebrains
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WEllbutrin is energizing, so the addition of Ritalin or Adderall can increase anxiety in some people. But it's not an uncommon combination. Frequently people end up needing less Ritalin when they are taking Wellbutrin.
The first treatment of choice in ADHD is usually an antidepresant like Wellbutrin.
The first treatment of choice in ADHD is usually an antidepresant like Wellbutrin.
musclebrains
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casavant said:
Well, I should qualify and say that responsible psychiatrists like to first experiment with an antidepressant because Ritalin and Adderall are so addictive. In mild ADHD, the antideps often work.
HappyScrappy
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hmmm, I guess my psychiatrist was really experimenting with the coke and heroin approach.
he said that it would help me even more than wellbutrin to kick my smoking habit (which I had picked up in order to get me off of chewing gum and diet sodas).
I feel I might be a smidge "addicted" to the coke/heroin combination - so now he says he is leaning towards his new concept of "russian roulette" therapy. apparently it doesn't always work, but every now and then it will totally cure you of your cravings. although apparently there is a downside of it making a mess - I'll keep you posted as to whether it works for me.
he said that it would help me even more than wellbutrin to kick my smoking habit (which I had picked up in order to get me off of chewing gum and diet sodas).
I feel I might be a smidge "addicted" to the coke/heroin combination - so now he says he is leaning towards his new concept of "russian roulette" therapy. apparently it doesn't always work, but every now and then it will totally cure you of your cravings. although apparently there is a downside of it making a mess - I'll keep you posted as to whether it works for me.
casavant
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musclebrains said:
How is wellbutrin anywhere close to adderall or ritalin? I feel a little bit of a rush with the former, but nothing like with the amphetamines. It must be for VERY mild cases. Why is dopamine so important for focus, anyway? What's the mechanism at work there?
HappyScrappy
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casavant said:
IIRC they think that low levels of of dopamine are linked with ADD due to the way the frontal lobes are activated.
also I think low levels of norepinephrine are linked with depression
interestingly, there is also a group that thinks it is based on a food allergy from high levels of casein and gluten (milk and wheat proteins).
something about them triggering poor absorbtion of other nutrients or something.
I don't know - just know I recall reading about it somewhere.
HappyScrappy
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dopamine is also linked to Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease
it seems it is a regulatory neurotransmitter.
it seems it is a regulatory neurotransmitter.
the nature boy
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I take wellbutrin, and I dont' get any rush. I'm kinda dissapointed with it, and my doc won't up my dosage any more than he already has. I'm at 400 mgs a day. I have posted more on this site since I've been on it though.
SofaGeorge
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HappyScrappy said:
Could you PM me your shrink's number?
HappyScrappy
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SofaGeorge said:
Could you PM me your shrink's number?
you know, to be totally honest, I have no clue what is number is. I mean, I know I've seen him with a cell phone and sometimes he is yelling and swearing into it.
but whenever I feel like I need to talk to him or get a perscription, I just go down to this one street in Dorchester where he tends to hang out and we just go off down a side street or into this doorway that he has some friends at...
he is usually pretty nice to me, but he hates it when I ask about how my insurance will cover it.
he is more of a cash kinda doctor from what I can tell.
musclebrains
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casavant said:
Because it is energizing, it acts like speed. Prozac does the same thing. Caffeine does it too, for that matter, and it's why so many undiagnosed ADHD people swill the stuff in enormous quantities.
casavant
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The Nature Boy said:
Funny that you mention that. I got my scrip filled yesterday and the chick at the counter said that she was on 200 mg a day and she would feel "cracked out" (but she seemed to mean in a good way). I'm at 300mg a day and the most I get is a very mild, yet quite pleasant, stimulated feeling. It's very smooth though. I almost feel cheated! About two hours after a dose, I'll have a grin pasted to my face and things that are humorous sometimes just crack me up to no end. I post more on this site when I'm on it, too, and I've found that, without thinking about it, I'll post up a lot more smileys and big grins. If you were to do a search on my posts (not that you would, but hypothetically speaking) I think that you would actually be able to notice a more positive vibe in them starting in Feb. when I went on the meds.
casavant
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musclebrains said:
I don't know if I have mild ADHD or not. I've taken a few online tests and read up on it and I actually fit the profile to a large extent. Maybe just mild depression. Either way, before I went on Wellbutrin, I would use caffeine to make me feel better or be more "on point". Sometimes when I would be feeling really down or out of it, I would rack my brain for someone I could call for some adderall (sounds healthy, huh?). Then when I'd get one, I'd roll it around in my hand and look at it for a second like Neo on Matrix right before he popped the truth pill. LOL. I don't crave dopamine releasing stuff as much now that I'm on wellbutrin.
HappyScrappy
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they have shown that people that consistently take in caffeine are less likely to kill themselves and are also far less likely to get Parkinson's - all related to dopamine release/regulation.
which is also why caffeine is addictive. dopamine is the neurotransmitter in the brain that is responsible for regulating mood and pleasure.
which is also why caffeine is addictive. dopamine is the neurotransmitter in the brain that is responsible for regulating mood and pleasure.
the nature boy
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casavant said:
Funny that you mention that. I got my scrip filled yesterday and the chick at the counter said that she was on 200 mg a day and she would feel "cracked out" (but she seemed to mean in a good way). I'm at 300mg a day and the most I get is a very mild, yet quite pleasant, stimulated feeling. It's very smooth though. I almost feel cheated! About two hours after a dose, I'll have a grin pasted to my face and things that are humorous sometimes just crack me up to no end. I post more on this site when I'm on it, too, and I've found that, without thinking about it, I'll post up a lot more smileys and big grins. If you were to do a search on my posts (not that you would, but hypothetically speaking) I think that you would actually be able to notice a more positive vibe in them starting in Feb. when I went on the meds.
I was at 300 a day, now I'm at 400.
I wonder if the dopamine effecting illegal drugs I've done in my past are making the wellbutrin less effective for me than you?
musclebrains
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400 is a high dose.
casavant
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The Nature Boy said:
Well, I don't think I'm getting is what I would call a real stimulant effect. It's nothing compared to adderall, coke, or meth. It's a nice, smooth mood enhancer though. Caffeine doesn't do shit for me anymore now that I've taken so much of it, but it used to give me a lot more of a wired feeling than the wellbutrin.
400 is a high dose, but at my size (253) I may need it to be upped to that eventually. I seem to develop a tolerance to drugs rather quickly.
the nature boy
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musclebrains said:
yeah my doc said that's as high as he can go. I'm supposed to give it a month and if it doesnt' work then I'll maybe try prozac again. I was hoping to increase my concentration since it sucks as of late, but it's not really working. plus my mood swings are only slightly better than before. I guess some things don't work well for everyone.
HappyScrappy
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casavant said:
as I understand it (which isn't that well), depression is based on three neurotranmitters. norepinephrine, dopamine, and seratonin.
after experimenting with regulation of the 3 of them, they found that they are all mood regulatory, but they each have different roles.
dopamine is the center of the addiction part of the brain b/c it is what regulates pleasure.
norepinephrine if low leads to a depressed state, and if high leads to mania.
the seratonin is what regulates not just a depressed mood, but actual physical symptoms as well.
generally though, they tried different approaches and for depression, regulating the seratonin (usually the reuptake of it, so that the existing amount in circulation stays there longer), then it improved the condition of depressed patients.
regulating the norepinephrine helped the manic patients.
and the dopamine helped the schizophrenics, the Parkinson's patients, and now they are seeing Alzheimer's as well.
this is also why frequently you see people self medicating. cocaine, heroin (any opiate), alcohol, etc all increase dopamine production and on one level help cure the person of their depression, but they bring about more issues.
the nature boy
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yeah remember the PM talks we had about adderall. he was the guy that was very reluctant to give me adderall. He said ADD can't start in adulthood, which I've learned is incorrect but I didn't want to argue with him. Then he told me I might need to see a neurologist. That's when I gave up on that idea. I want to see a new doc but my schedule is all fucked up till october. 
how goes your quest for adderall casavant?
how goes your quest for adderall casavant?
HappyScrappy
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is IP still around? didn't he have Adderall, or his version of it?
I've been out of the game long enough that I have no clue if he is even still around or what he carries.
but I know his viagra works.
I've been out of the game long enough that I have no clue if he is even still around or what he carries.
but I know his viagra works.
the nature boy
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HappyScrappy said:
can supersizeme vouch for that?
casavant
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The Nature Boy said:yeah remember the PM talks we had about adderall. he was the guy that was very reluctant to give me adderall. He said ADD can't start in adulthood, which I've learned is incorrect but I didn't want to argue with him. Then he told me I might need to see a neurologist. That's when I gave up on that idea. I want to see a new doc but my schedule is all fucked up till october.
how goes your quest for adderall casavant?
Yep, I remember the PM talks- that's what I was referring to.
The only thing standing in my way is the money, which I should have in a month or so. I've heard this guy will prescribe it to a dog.
the nature boy
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you lucky bastard. what does it cost per month with insurance?
the nature boy
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sweet. for some reason I didn't think that adderall was covered, don't know why I thought that.
the nature boy
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he is my idol.
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