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The Shadow
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...in terms of a weekly amount what would it be??
T
The Shadow
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lol
welfare.....
welfare.....
T
The Shadow
Guest
lol
I'm serious - I want to know the amount in relation to the minimum wage after all taxes are taken out.....say one chils as child care is expensive these days
I'm serious - I want to know the amount in relation to the minimum wage after all taxes are taken out.....say one chils as child care is expensive these days
T
The Shadow
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aight now.....
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The Shadow
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WODIN said:
....so then.......with two kids - if both parents worked - day car is gonna run at least 120 per week for both kids...so half of that 1000 is gone......
No wonder a single parent with one or two kids stays home - mo money
raise the f'n minimum wage!!!
HumorMe
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Cornholio said:
Although I would agree to a minimum wage rate increase, the small business sector would be the ones most hurt by this, IMO.
I think the first step for increasing welfare $$$ for recipients would be to eliminate the scam artists who milk the system by having more kids.
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The Shadow
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c'mon- People rail on folks who stay at home and draw ....BUT if YOU could stay home....do nothing and get mo money than working 40 per week AND have the advantage of being wioth your child - that's a damn no brainer....
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dballer
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Cornholio said:
it depends.. but I think it is between $300 and $1000.. ask decem
T
The Shadow
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lol@dballer.....
VicTusDeuS
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Re: Re: Welfare......
dballer said:
vixenbabe
Classy Skank
Face it, it's rotten cycle with no end in sight. If you have an un-educated woman with NO skills are you willing to hire and train her?
I'm guessing you have NOT had to pay daycare in your lifetime? $120 per week?....HA! We are paying close to $185.00 for ONE kid per week. If you have more than one you think you get a break? You pay $245.00 per week for the second child!
Want too get into government housing? Have about a year and a half to wait for such housing? Can you live in the streets for that long cuz the shelter's are full too.
Yep, some sad shit allll the way around.....
I'm guessing you have NOT had to pay daycare in your lifetime? $120 per week?....HA! We are paying close to $185.00 for ONE kid per week. If you have more than one you think you get a break? You pay $245.00 per week for the second child!
Want too get into government housing? Have about a year and a half to wait for such housing? Can you live in the streets for that long cuz the shelter's are full too.
Yep, some sad shit allll the way around.....
T
The Shadow
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child care here is very reasonable - 60 per week is a good price
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dballer
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Lets face it.. min. wage is not for people who have kids. If you have earn the minimum wage... and you have kids.. you deserve to drive a 81 Chevy Celebrity.
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The Shadow
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vixenbabe said:
no - quite the place actually - The Busy Box - they make it on volume - tons of children - tons of workers to though
vixenbabe
Classy Skank
Been there..done that kind of place with my kid. I pulled her OUT the day I went in and found her STILL in her jammies and watching TV from 6:30 AM til I arrived at 1 PM, on a SUNNY day! If looks could kill the "teacher's" would have been DEAD!
I'm sure not all places are like the above. I did find it to be true around NW Ohio. Places to drop your kid off to be fed and thrown in front of a TV all day.
We pay a retired kindergarten teacher who has a wonderful pre-school/kindergarten program! Bri goes to the library daily, the pool in the afternoon, PLAYS outside, art class,games,trips to the nature parks,etc! We also get a DAILY progress report on Bri. I guess you get what you pay for in some cases.
We are blessed!!!!!! But....we also pay dearly for this blessing too!
I'm sure not all places are like the above. I did find it to be true around NW Ohio. Places to drop your kid off to be fed and thrown in front of a TV all day.
We pay a retired kindergarten teacher who has a wonderful pre-school/kindergarten program! Bri goes to the library daily, the pool in the afternoon, PLAYS outside, art class,games,trips to the nature parks,etc! We also get a DAILY progress report on Bri. I guess you get what you pay for in some cases.
We are blessed!!!!!! But....we also pay dearly for this blessing too!
Growing up in an area with a high welfare population, I saw first hand how these people live.
First, public housing is very cheap. Much lower than normal housing.
Second, food is now purchased with debit cards, so as to not "stigmatize" these "poor and unfortunates".
Third, child care is free, with programs like Headstart and public schools.
Fourth, they do not pay for private medical insurance, instead use state funded hospitals.
Fifth, they often have part time jobs, most are forced to have some sort of job to maintain their aid.
Sixth, they get back money at the end of the tax year, due to earned income credit.
So, if one does not have to pay for the normal items that others in society do, the vast majority of your money is spendable cash. If I did not have to pay for private education, mortgage, medical, food, etc., then I would be living the high life. People who do not understand the reality, think that they are living exactly like the working public do, but this is not the case. I watched them brag about $150 tennis shoes for their 4 yr old kids, and laugh at my kid's Walmart shoes. They had brand new cars, while I drove a car almost 20yrs old. My wife and I both have college degrees, yet we have less luxury items than many of them.
Thomas Malthus made the claim that aid to the poor only increases their numbers. I think he may be right.
First, public housing is very cheap. Much lower than normal housing.
Second, food is now purchased with debit cards, so as to not "stigmatize" these "poor and unfortunates".
Third, child care is free, with programs like Headstart and public schools.
Fourth, they do not pay for private medical insurance, instead use state funded hospitals.
Fifth, they often have part time jobs, most are forced to have some sort of job to maintain their aid.
Sixth, they get back money at the end of the tax year, due to earned income credit.
So, if one does not have to pay for the normal items that others in society do, the vast majority of your money is spendable cash. If I did not have to pay for private education, mortgage, medical, food, etc., then I would be living the high life. People who do not understand the reality, think that they are living exactly like the working public do, but this is not the case. I watched them brag about $150 tennis shoes for their 4 yr old kids, and laugh at my kid's Walmart shoes. They had brand new cars, while I drove a car almost 20yrs old. My wife and I both have college degrees, yet we have less luxury items than many of them.
Thomas Malthus made the claim that aid to the poor only increases their numbers. I think he may be right.
circusgirl
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Hmmm where I grew up, a lot of the farmers were elligible for income support, because they earned so little from their farms (in Ireland, if you have kids and are on a low wage, the govt gives you some benefits, so you stay employed and don't drop out to be full-time welfare recipients). Sure, many of them had lots of kids, then again, they were strong Catholics who would not use birth control, rather than deliberately having kids to get more money... these people did NOT have 150 dollar tennis shoes - in fact, my parents, both teachers, were considered "wealthy" in comparison to most of my classmates' parents... some people really need that money...you don't hear about them though, they are too busy supporting their families to mouth off to the newspapers....
