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out_at_sea

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I was driving today when I saw a driver using a SARS mask while he was behind the wheel.....WTF..

Was he driving from Toronto up to California and he forgot to take off his mask?????
 
out_at_sea said:
I was driving today when I saw a driver using a SARS mask while he was behind the wheel.....WTF..

Was he driving from Toronto up to California and he forgot to take off his mask?????

Maybe! "WHO" really Knows? If he is still alive we should ask him!

Coverup? Is SARS Already
Rampant In California?
5-11-3

Dear Editor:

I am a health care worker working in a North Bay Area hospital. Since as early as March, on my documented patient rosters, we have been seeing a continual pattern of strange "atypical" pneumonia patients.

The pattern is as follows:

Sudden shortness of breath, fever documented in charts as 100.4 to 102.2, ARDS, pleural effusions, cardiac effusions, diarrhea for 3 days to 2 weeks, pneumonia all with a grainy or nodule pattern on X rays, respiratory failure leading more and more to death after ventilator support. At first the patients presented with a viral pneumonia presentation, then they went to a bacterial pneumonia presentation, then they went into kidney and liver failures, then unknown septicemia patterns, and mortality increasing. We started out with compromised patients with underlying disease, especially COPD or heart problems, cancer history or chronic fatigue syndrome history or HIV as early fatalities in March. There is a strong pattern of repeat pneumonia patients worsening and readmitted from hospitalizations in January.

Then younger and younger patients with less compromise started getting the same patterns. We had a patient in the teens and one in their in 20's. Other health care workers, working in a children's ICU close by, report the same patterns and that they have lost many children to this pattern. How many deaths? We have lost up to 20 people on one shift in one month who have died with this pattern. As staff members we don't know how many total have died or who is keeping track of our mortality rates. The state licensing agencies have been notified as well as public health by concerned staff members filing complaints that their patient mortality rate is increasing with the same patterns. Infection control and isolation procedures have been incredibly lax as well as proper equipment in working with isolation patients, such as proper N95 masks not available or shoe covers for many isolation R/O SARS. Many of the patients who died were not even in contact isolations.

Our staff has reported increasing, unexplained fatigue and diarrhea after working with these "atypical" pneumonia patients. Stewards attempting to get staff screened for symptoms or nasal swabs for viral infection have been ignored and disciplined attempted for questioning infection control policy or alerting staff to new infectious control SARS-LIKE patterns. We as several staff believe their is a cover up on an infectious disease with SARS-LIKE symptoms and that the staff members are being put at risk without proper inservice or protections to themselves. We don't know if this is ignorance, dysfunctional health care system problems, worries about corporate liability, or if we being used as experiments to see how this pattern spreads. None of us have agreed to be experiments or are being compensated as such. The hospital where this pattern has been a problem is in the Napa, Solono County, California. I am reporting this pattern in the interest of public safety without using or disclosing names of patients or staff or the specific hospital involved. We. as staff, are gagged from public disclosures of problems by corporate compliance papers that we have signed in the last six weeks that threaten a $10,000 fine, termination, or 6 months in jail for disclosing health care information. The policy is so tight that we can not even give a safe report to each other under their guidelines if we followed them strictly.

We do not believe, as staff , that this policy was designed or is functional for patient care, but was designed to protect the physicians and the hospital from mismanagement or liability issues without regard to public safety. Our hospital has continually refused to report it's suspect SARS patients to public health or accurately disclose it's numbers of SARS case under investigation, and do so only when forced to do so, by staff reporting to public health the numbers are not matching what they are seeing and working with. Many of our health we are concerned that a potential infectious disease contagious spread to the prison facilities would result in a horror of deaths to the prisoners. The California prison conditions are severely over crowded and have sanitation problems and many of the prisoners are already compromised with lowered immune systems now.

Respiratory Therapist
 
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DcupSheepNipples said:


Maybe! "WHO" really Knows? If he is still alive we should ask him!

Coverup? Is SARS Already
Rampant In California?
5-11-3

Dear Editor:

I am a health care worker working in a North Bay Area hospital. Since as early as March, on my documented patient rosters, we have been seeing a continual pattern of strange "atypical" pneumonia patients.

The pattern is as follows:

Sudden shortness of breath, fever documented in charts as 100.4 to 102.2, ARDS, pleural effusions, cardiac effusions, diarrhea for 3 days to 2 weeks, pneumonia all with a grainy or nodule pattern on X rays, respiratory failure leading more and more to death after ventilator support. At first the patients presented with a viral pneumonia presentation, then they went to a bacterial pneumonia presentation, then they went into kidney and liver failures, then unknown septicemia patterns, and mortality increasing. We started out with compromised patients with underlying disease, especially COPD or heart problems, cancer history or chronic fatigue syndrome history or HIV as early fatalities in March. There is a strong pattern of repeat pneumonia patients worsening and readmitted from hospitalizations in January.

Then younger and younger patients with less compromise started getting the same patterns. We had a patient in the teens and one in their in 20's. Other health care workers, working in a children's ICU close by, report the same patterns and that they have lost many children to this pattern. How many deaths? We have lost up to 20 people on one shift in one month who have died with this pattern. As staff members we don't know how many total have died or who is keeping track of our mortality rates. The state licensing agencies have been notified as well as public health by concerned staff members filing complaints that their patient mortality rate is increasing with the same patterns. Infection control and isolation procedures have been incredibly lax as well as proper equipment in working with isolation patients, such as proper N95 masks not available or shoe covers for many isolation R/O SARS. Many of the patients who died were not even in contact isolations.

Our staff has reported increasing, unexplained fatigue and diarrhea after working with these "atypical" pneumonia patients. Stewards attempting to get staff screened for symptoms or nasal swabs for viral infection have been ignored and disciplined attempted for questioning infection control policy or alerting staff to new infectious control SARS-LIKE patterns. We as several staff believe their is a cover up on an infectious disease with SARS-LIKE symptoms and that the staff members are being put at risk without proper inservice or protections to themselves. We don't know if this is ignorance, dysfunctional health care system problems, worries about corporate liability, or if we being used as experiments to see how this pattern spreads. None of us have agreed to be experiments or are being compensated as such. The hospital where this pattern has been a problem is in the Napa, Solono County, California. I am reporting this pattern in the interest of public safety without using or disclosing names of patients or staff or the specific hospital involved. We. as staff, are gagged from public disclosures of problems by corporate compliance papers that we have signed in the last six weeks that threaten a $10,000 fine, termination, or 6 months in jail for disclosing health care information. The policy is so tight that we can not even give a safe report to each other under their guidelines if we followed them strictly.

We do not believe, as staff , that this policy was designed or is functional for patient care, but was designed to protect the physicians and the hospital from mismanagement or liability issues without regard to public safety. Our hospital has continually refused to report it's suspect SARS patients to public health or accurately disclose it's numbers of SARS case under investigation, and do so only when forced to do so, by staff reporting to public health the numbers are not matching what they are seeing and working with. Many of our health we are concerned that a potential infectious disease contagious spread to the prison facilities would result in a horror of deaths to the prisoners. The California prison conditions are severely over crowded and have sanitation problems and many of the prisoners are already compromised with lowered immune systems now.

Respiratory Therapist

It sounds like a cover-up...if that is true, we are doomed!
 
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out_at_sea said:


It sounds like a cover-up...if that is true, we are doomed!

Not me! I saw the movie "Bubble Boy" with John Travolta!

"What are you looking at? You never seen a kid in a bubble before?" - Donald the bubble boy, in "The Bubble Boy-Seinfeld"

But seriously! Y2k Bunkers and Biosuites do the trick well! As if a surgical mask is going to save you! lol
 
This SARS is getting out of hand and quite scary...That guy wearing a mask even when he was inside his car gave me the jitters...I thought that at least in Ca I would be safe , but I was dead wrong...


THIS SHIT IS NO JOKE!
 
Darktooth said:
Dcup, enlighten me, are we headed towards a bio-terror initiated government control?

Also, I want to know if "North Bay Area" means San Francisco... fuck I hope not.

SF is just around the corner...SARS has no boundaries...
 
Darktooth said:



I was at the golden gate bridge on saturday.. bunch of tourists wearing masks too, plus National Guardsmen carrying m16's were walking around... kinda weird

I live around the bay area too..there is something fishy in the air and I am afraid that shit is going on and we are not aware of yet. Like in China at the beginning the authorities were trying ot deny it and to cover up their SARS...

IT is some thing very serious....
 
Darktooth said:
Dcup, enlighten me, are we headed towards a bio-terror initiated government control?

Also, I want to know if "North Bay Area" means San Francisco... fuck I hope not.

Of course it will! It has been used around the world before! What makes you think it will not happen here? It is a natural progression in the "Timeline!" By the way the "OPERATION" TOPOFF2 is underway right now! Now that's Ironic!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=233100&highlight=homeland+security
 
Sundance said:


I live around the bay area too..there is something fishy in the air and I am afraid that shit is going on and we are not aware of yet. Like in China at the beginning the authorities were trying ot deny it and to cover up their SARS...

IT is some thing very serious....

Let's hope not! But Chinas Gov lied! Our Gov lies to us daily (for our own good sometimes and other times for not our own good!) Let's hope for once we are getting the truth! But lets face it SARS would be a great thing for new Gov controls, quarantine testing and power grabbing! They would never say that! But the CDC and DOJ may already be licking their lips or at the very least they are subconsciously!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=224696&highlight=SARS

TOPOFF2 TODAY!
 
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Is there anyway to verify that this message is not a hoax?


DcupSheepNipples said:


Maybe! "WHO" really Knows? If he is still alive we should ask him!

Coverup? Is SARS Already
Rampant In California?
5-11-3

Dear Editor:

I am a health care worker working in a North Bay Area hospital. Since as early as March, on my documented patient rosters, we have been seeing a continual pattern of strange "atypical" pneumonia patients.

The pattern is as follows:

Sudden shortness of breath, fever documented in charts as 100.4 to 102.2, ARDS, pleural effusions, cardiac effusions, diarrhea for 3 days to 2 weeks, pneumonia all with a grainy or nodule pattern on X rays, respiratory failure leading more and more to death after ventilator support. At first the patients presented with a viral pneumonia presentation, then they went to a bacterial pneumonia presentation, then they went into kidney and liver failures, then unknown septicemia patterns, and mortality increasing. We started out with compromised patients with underlying disease, especially COPD or heart problems, cancer history or chronic fatigue syndrome history or HIV as early fatalities in March. There is a strong pattern of repeat pneumonia patients worsening and readmitted from hospitalizations in January.

Then younger and younger patients with less compromise started getting the same patterns. We had a patient in the teens and one in their in 20's. Other health care workers, working in a children's ICU close by, report the same patterns and that they have lost many children to this pattern. How many deaths? We have lost up to 20 people on one shift in one month who have died with this pattern. As staff members we don't know how many total have died or who is keeping track of our mortality rates. The state licensing agencies have been notified as well as public health by concerned staff members filing complaints that their patient mortality rate is increasing with the same patterns. Infection control and isolation procedures have been incredibly lax as well as proper equipment in working with isolation patients, such as proper N95 masks not available or shoe covers for many isolation R/O SARS. Many of the patients who died were not even in contact isolations.

Our staff has reported increasing, unexplained fatigue and diarrhea after working with these "atypical" pneumonia patients. Stewards attempting to get staff screened for symptoms or nasal swabs for viral infection have been ignored and disciplined attempted for questioning infection control policy or alerting staff to new infectious control SARS-LIKE patterns. We as several staff believe their is a cover up on an infectious disease with SARS-LIKE symptoms and that the staff members are being put at risk without proper inservice or protections to themselves. We don't know if this is ignorance, dysfunctional health care system problems, worries about corporate liability, or if we being used as experiments to see how this pattern spreads. None of us have agreed to be experiments or are being compensated as such. The hospital where this pattern has been a problem is in the Napa, Solono County, California. I am reporting this pattern in the interest of public safety without using or disclosing names of patients or staff or the specific hospital involved. We. as staff, are gagged from public disclosures of problems by corporate compliance papers that we have signed in the last six weeks that threaten a $10,000 fine, termination, or 6 months in jail for disclosing health care information. The policy is so tight that we can not even give a safe report to each other under their guidelines if we followed them strictly.

We do not believe, as staff , that this policy was designed or is functional for patient care, but was designed to protect the physicians and the hospital from mismanagement or liability issues without regard to public safety. Our hospital has continually refused to report it's suspect SARS patients to public health or accurately disclose it's numbers of SARS case under investigation, and do so only when forced to do so, by staff reporting to public health the numbers are not matching what they are seeing and working with. Many of our health we are concerned that a potential infectious disease contagious spread to the prison facilities would result in a horror of deaths to the prisoners. The California prison conditions are severely over crowded and have sanitation problems and many of the prisoners are already compromised with lowered immune systems now.

Respiratory Therapist
 
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