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Because defence attorneys are cunts.
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Warik
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RyanH said:
Thanks for the compliments - even the arrogance part - I find that complimenting, too.
I have many reasons why I do not wish to go to law school after graduating. I will briefly outline them and explain more clearly those you wish to have explained so. I feel honored to have a whole post dedicated to me, even if its author is my arch-enemy. =)
1) I have bored myself through 3 semesters of college. I have 2 semesters to go. My last desire is to return.
2) I do not find spending 4 years dedicated to study only to find myself with a debt larger than my annual income to be a financially sound decision.
3) There are no good law schools in South Florida. Thus, I would have to leave home and seek one out and find myself living in poverty in a college dorm room for the next 4 years or so with an annoying roommate. I have no desire to leave home until I find a job that earns me enough to purchase my own home - hopefully one that includes a wife.
4) Like you said, I'm more prosecutor material. Comparatively speaking, prosecutors make caca. If I need to be a defense attorney to make good money, I don't want to make good money. Anybody worth defending I would defend for free, and those not worth defending I would not defend at all. I believe that the majority of people who are placed on trial are guilty. It would be immoral of me to make my living off of helping dangerous individuals return to the streets and threaten my wife and children and those of my neighbors and friends.
5) I'm sure there are other reasons. Keep talking and I'll probably conjure a few up.
-Warik
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That's probably the only part of being a lawyer I'd enjoy.
Judge: "Mr. Prosecutor, call your next witness."
Me: "The prosecution calls the accused's mother-in-law."
Courtroom: *gasp*
Defense: "Objection your honor!"
Judge: "Objection overruled."
Me: "LOL... take a seat, fucker."
-Warik
manny78 said:
That's probably the only part of being a lawyer I'd enjoy.
Judge: "Mr. Prosecutor, call your next witness."
Me: "The prosecution calls the accused's mother-in-law."
Courtroom: *gasp*
Defense: "Objection your honor!"
Judge: "Objection overruled."
Me: "LOL... take a seat, fucker."
-Warik
RyanH
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Re: Re: Warik and LAW SCHOOL.
1) I have bored myself through 3 semesters of college. I have 2 semesters to go. My last desire is to return.
I felt the same after college, but nothing good ever comes easy.....Hard work, Warik.
2) I do not find spending 4 years dedicated to study only to find myself with a debt larger than my annual income to be a financially sound decision.
Well, that's a very valid point. But, there are some law schools that aren't very expenisve, and even if you rack up 75 grand in student loan debt, you'll pay that back in no time as an attorney.
3) There are no good law schools in South Florida. Thus, I would have to leave home and seek one out and find myself living in poverty in a college dorm room for the next 4 years or so with an annoying roommate. I have no desire to leave home until I find a job that earns me enough to purchase my own home - hopefully one that includes a wife.
What about University of Miami. They have a decent law school, I got accepted there.
4) Like you said, I'm more prosecutor material. Comparatively speaking, prosecutors make caca. If I need to be a defense attorney to make good money, I don't want to make good money. Anybody worth defending I would defend for free, and those not worth defending I would not defend at all. I believe that the majority of people who are placed on trial are guilty. It would be immoral of me to make my living off of helping dangerous individuals return to the streets and threaten my wife and children and those of my neighbors and friends.
True. Prosecutors do make less money, but they get power in return.
I just think you are really cut-out for lawschool......I've listened to your ramblings for over a year now, and you could do it. Plus, you would love arguing and the Socratic method.
1) I have bored myself through 3 semesters of college. I have 2 semesters to go. My last desire is to return.
I felt the same after college, but nothing good ever comes easy.....Hard work, Warik.
2) I do not find spending 4 years dedicated to study only to find myself with a debt larger than my annual income to be a financially sound decision.
Well, that's a very valid point. But, there are some law schools that aren't very expenisve, and even if you rack up 75 grand in student loan debt, you'll pay that back in no time as an attorney.
3) There are no good law schools in South Florida. Thus, I would have to leave home and seek one out and find myself living in poverty in a college dorm room for the next 4 years or so with an annoying roommate. I have no desire to leave home until I find a job that earns me enough to purchase my own home - hopefully one that includes a wife.
What about University of Miami. They have a decent law school, I got accepted there.
4) Like you said, I'm more prosecutor material. Comparatively speaking, prosecutors make caca. If I need to be a defense attorney to make good money, I don't want to make good money. Anybody worth defending I would defend for free, and those not worth defending I would not defend at all. I believe that the majority of people who are placed on trial are guilty. It would be immoral of me to make my living off of helping dangerous individuals return to the streets and threaten my wife and children and those of my neighbors and friends.
True. Prosecutors do make less money, but they get power in return.
I just think you are really cut-out for lawschool......I've listened to your ramblings for over a year now, and you could do it. Plus, you would love arguing and the Socratic method.
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Hey, I've had many good things come to me that I felt were easy. My scholarship, good grades, car, etc are all good things that I felt came easy... many others consider it "hard work" and constantly remind me about how I've worked hard to get to where I am. I thought it was ez.
True, the money is not the issue though. Professionals such as lawyers, doctors, and goatherders need name recognition when it comes to education. Don't think UM is that high up there, although I'm not certain because I haven't done any such research.
I suppose I might be cut-out for lawschool, but it's simply not what I want to do with my life at this point. I have a natural aptitude for programming I think very "algorithimacly" (warning: this is not a real word). Though I also have an aptitude for arguing and debating, I'm not as efficient in person arguing as I am on the computer. The computer helps me take time to think about the issues and do research to support my claims. Hard to do that in the middle of a heated argument, especially when I get pissed when the opposing party is too ignorant to see my point.
Happened in Philosophy class SEVERAL times especially when debating with the teacher one of the flaws of Parmenides' theory of the One or whatever stupid shit he invented. I constructed an awesome argument that completely destroyed half of his theory and the teacher and classmates simply could not understand it. Their puny minds couldn't handle it. Wanna hear? Maybe you'll get it.
Anyway, back to the issue at hand... the thought of arguing cases for a living and putting dangerous criminals in jail is an appealing one, but not at this point in my life and not at this point in our justice system. I still feel that the procedures in our justice system are antiquated and give too much priority to the accused. I also find the trial process much too slow for my tastes. When I work I like to be efficient and finish things quickly. Taking a 3 hour recess because the judge has to piss is not my idea of efficiency. Hell, I'd probably fall asleep in the court room. I sure as hell did while watching the Gore team present its evidence on TV. Half an hour talking about a stylus? Come on.
Maybe when I'm retired and financially secure (I plan to do this early in my life) I'll go back to school and get a degree in law. I know a doctor who is in his 50s or so and only became a doctor a couple of years ago. Decided he didn't like what he was doing with his life and he jumped headfirst into medical school. Quite impresive.
-Warik
RyanH said:
Hey, I've had many good things come to me that I felt were easy. My scholarship, good grades, car, etc are all good things that I felt came easy... many others consider it "hard work" and constantly remind me about how I've worked hard to get to where I am. I thought it was ez.
RyanH said:
True, the money is not the issue though. Professionals such as lawyers, doctors, and goatherders need name recognition when it comes to education. Don't think UM is that high up there, although I'm not certain because I haven't done any such research.
RyanH said:
I suppose I might be cut-out for lawschool, but it's simply not what I want to do with my life at this point. I have a natural aptitude for programming I think very "algorithimacly" (warning: this is not a real word). Though I also have an aptitude for arguing and debating, I'm not as efficient in person arguing as I am on the computer. The computer helps me take time to think about the issues and do research to support my claims. Hard to do that in the middle of a heated argument, especially when I get pissed when the opposing party is too ignorant to see my point.
Happened in Philosophy class SEVERAL times especially when debating with the teacher one of the flaws of Parmenides' theory of the One or whatever stupid shit he invented. I constructed an awesome argument that completely destroyed half of his theory and the teacher and classmates simply could not understand it. Their puny minds couldn't handle it. Wanna hear? Maybe you'll get it.
Anyway, back to the issue at hand... the thought of arguing cases for a living and putting dangerous criminals in jail is an appealing one, but not at this point in my life and not at this point in our justice system. I still feel that the procedures in our justice system are antiquated and give too much priority to the accused. I also find the trial process much too slow for my tastes. When I work I like to be efficient and finish things quickly. Taking a 3 hour recess because the judge has to piss is not my idea of efficiency. Hell, I'd probably fall asleep in the court room. I sure as hell did while watching the Gore team present its evidence on TV. Half an hour talking about a stylus? Come on.
Maybe when I'm retired and financially secure (I plan to do this early in my life) I'll go back to school and get a degree in law. I know a doctor who is in his 50s or so and only became a doctor a couple of years ago. Decided he didn't like what he was doing with his life and he jumped headfirst into medical school. Quite impresive.
-Warik
RyanH
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You're right, you could always go back and get a degree later on in law, and there are many older people who have done it.
But, in law you tend to argue more on paper than you do in person...i.e. Summary Judgment motions, etc.......Most cases don't go to trial, most all are usually settled (that is if you wanted to go into private practice), and thus much of your arguing takes place on paper----which you can definitely handle.
And, Miami isn't a bad law school, it's not as good as Emory or NYU are any of those schools, but it would easily land you a job in Miami.
As far as legal arguments often being boring: DEFINITELY.....I've heard some pretty fucking boring arguments, all mostly from professors.
Ryan.
But, in law you tend to argue more on paper than you do in person...i.e. Summary Judgment motions, etc.......Most cases don't go to trial, most all are usually settled (that is if you wanted to go into private practice), and thus much of your arguing takes place on paper----which you can definitely handle.
And, Miami isn't a bad law school, it's not as good as Emory or NYU are any of those schools, but it would easily land you a job in Miami.
As far as legal arguments often being boring: DEFINITELY.....I've heard some pretty fucking boring arguments, all mostly from professors.
Ryan.
Warik, I have been a prosecutor for 14 years. I am now the elected DA in a small East Texas Co. I make well over six figures in a community where you can buy a 5000 square foot home for $250K. I love what I do and I am nowhere close to burn out. It is a great feeling prosecuting the pieces of human excrement that prey on victims weaker than themselves. Although there may not be a good law school in south Florida, there is a "pipeline" to a Texas law school, South Texas College of Law in Houston from Florida. I believe your Attorney General graduated from there. They have a reputation for producing the most successful litigators in the nation. Don't write of prosecution. You can make a decent living and have a great time.
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