Wanted input on long cycles 30wks+

[benj]

Just curious as to how much gains you kept and how much layoff time you had.

 

[B182]

If you plan on having kids it's not something I'd do...

 

[Maxx Out]

If you plan on having kids it's not something I'd do...

What do u mean? What about all these top pro's, how do they do it? Also many of my friends who r always on were able to have children----either planned or by mistake.

 

[benj]

Come on we all know that testicular output will return its just a matter of time and I was planing a really long taper at the end

 

[ultragainz]

make sure you drink a lot of water and take liver protectors,anit-e's and so on.....and most people on this board wont give you no info on a long cycle..they think long cycles are wrong to do..how many cycles have you hit?if its only your 3rd cycle or so then no dont do a 30 week cycle...no need for it...but if you want to its fine with me..here is a good example of a long cycle...

"ultracycle" with the "Hollywood ultra kick"

wks*dbol**test**prop**eq***deca**fina**winny
1***50***750*************400***********
2***50***750*************400***********
3***50***750*************400***********
4***50***750*************400***********
5***40***750*************400***********
6***30***750*************400***********
7***30***750*************400***********
8***20***750*************400***********
9********750*************400***********
10*******500*************300***********
11*******500*************300***********
12*******250********600**200***********
13*******250********600**200***********
14*******250********600****************
15************100ed*600****************
16************100ed*600****************
17************100ed*600****************
18************100ed*600*********75ed***
19************100ed*600*********75ed***
20************100ed*600*********75ed***
21************100ed*600*********75ed***
22***********100eod*400*********75ed***
23***********100eod*400*********75ed*50ed
24***********100eod*400********75eod*50ed
25***********100eod*300********50eod*50eod
26***********100e3d*300********50eod*50eod
27***********100e3d*300********50eod*50eod
28***********100e3d******************50eod
29***********100e3d***********************
30***********100e3d***********************
HIT ANTI-E'S
**take ALA and other liver protectors like from www.anabolicfitness.net they got a Af store there and get buy there liver proector from there..ALA at 1000mgs or more is fine..drink 1-2 gallons of water a day...you can also take HCG every 8 weeks if you like...i dont take HCG but you can......

AND DONT DO THIS CYCLE YET WHATS YOUR CYCLE HISTORY? THIS WAS JUST A EXAMPLE

 

[benj]

thanks

 

[LONE_AZ]

Not a good Idea..... Never go longer than 12 weeks...... Ask yourself is it really worth the risk. Testicular inhibition is the least of your worries on a 30+ week cycle. No amount of water or liver protectors can stop the damage to your liver and kidneys.

 

[ultragainz]

that cycle is fine...and when your hitting roids for a long time always change the dose take low amounts too....some people do this after lets say 10 weeks of a good amount they take 6 weeks or more with low amount...200mgs of deca and 300mgs of eq a little test in there ect.............and many people have hit long cycles...if your worried about your liver dont take too much d-bol,anadrol,halo ect.....

 

[genarr3]

If you plan on having kids it's not something I'd do...

He IS right. Simply pointing out a few pros that have kinds is hardly a scientific survey. I personally know a dude that is permently shut down from lengthy cycles. It DOES happen.

 

[genarr3]

Why don't you hardcore "live for today" users read Flex1's post:
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=142321

 

[ultragainz]

heres one more 30 week cycle..this cycle is a little different..
any changes can be made on the cycles...HCG every 8 weeks or so is fine...i never took HCG so i dont know how you would like it in the cycle.

"ultracycle with the "Hollywood ultra kick"

wks*d-bol**deca**test**prop***eq**fina**winny
1***50****400**750************************
2***50****400**750************************
3***50****400**750************************
4***50****400**750************************
5***50****400**750************************
6***40****400**750************************
7***30****400**750************************
8***20****300**750************************
9*********300**500************************
10********200**500************************
11********200**250************************
12********200**250************************
13*************250************************
14*************250************************
15********************100e3d**300*********
16********************100e3d**300*********
17********************100e3d**300*********
18********************100e3d**300*********
19********************100e3d**600*********
20********************100ed***600**75ed***
21********************100ed***600**75ed*50ed
22********************100ed***600**75ed*50ed
23********************100ed***600**75ed*50ed
24********************100eod**400**75ed*50eod
25********************100eod**300*75eod*50eod
26********************100eod**300*50eod*50eod
27********************100e3d******30eod****
28********************100e3d***************
29********************100e3d***************
30********************100e3d***************

 

[ultragainz]

yea true...also most pros hit very high amounts too...

 

[ultragainz]

plus i never hit a 30 week cycle before...the longest i did was about 15 weeks

 

[muscle_geek]

30 weeks would be crazy unless you are a professional that makes his living doing this. You can almost ignore the science on this one and use common sense. I'm not flaming here because I think we all hate to go off cycle, but there has to be that mental checkpoint that keeps us safe from overdoing things.

 

[robsatx]

Patience Patience Patience

Might want to reconsider . . .

 

[champion]

even though most won't admit there are alot of guys here that do long/year round cycles. I am one of them.
Get routine bloodwork.
switch compounds and doses every 12wks, give or take 2-4 wks and mainly stick with injectables, throw orals in there every once an awhile. Take your protectors
.
Also I am not recomending you do this. It's not for most people.

 

[LONE_AZ]

Genarr3 is 100% right. Don’t take the chance. Be responsible and don’t abuse to that extent. You only have one liver and after that there is only a short miserable existence. If you read about Flexed and you still asked this question and still a considering doing 30 weeks, than I guess there is no point in using common sense with you. AS are safe. but not at 30 week even at low dose with 17-aa’s. As for those who tell him it is ok….. If you want to fuck up your body that’s fine but don’t advise others to do so. It may not fuck you up, but it could fuck them up. Then where does that leave you….As the asshole who said it is ok….

 

[ultragainz]

you calling me an 'asshole'?....go back and read what i said..i said whats your cycle history...the cycles i made are just examples of a 30 week cycle....i said DONT do it if you only hit a couple cycles...did i tell him to go for it?.NO.....did i say bro its all you,30 week cycles are made for you.????NO i never said that...i just made some cycles as examples of 30 week cycles...so dont call me an "asshole"....

 

[LONE_AZ]

Bro I was no calling you an asshole... I was just commenting that there are idiots out there that would say that is type of cycle comes without risk. I was not referring to your post at all. If anything you post was good because at least it gives some guidance if he were to choose to do it... Didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers.... Karma to you...

 

[Diesel3d]

i think you would get better results from a cycle with 8 weeks on , then 8 weeks off then another 8 weeks on. Total. of 24 weeks. rather then 32 non stop.

8 weeks Bulk
8 weeks maintain
8 weeks Bluk or cut ( whatever your goals are )

I have never tried a cycle that long non stop, but this is just what i think.