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so are you not going to give us on whats going to be in the next batch as well?
is there even a next batch.. sorry never tried this stuff... but maybe next batch?
 
there is a hybrid of BOTH

EnerG

and

Volume .............coming :artist:


the basic EnerG and basic Volume are VERY good buys


but for the higher end crew wich is basically the clientel of the AF STORE


your intellectual taste buds will be gratified

as well as results


I also distribute Genetec at www.bodybuilding.com



their clientel enjoys a more simple and less costly product
 
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sorry for the bumps
its just till it clears

i want you guys to get in on the deal and really give it a go
 
OMEGA said:
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sorry for the bumps
its just till it clears

i want you guys to get in on the deal and really give it a go

Why are you appologizing for the bumps bro ?Aggressive marketing and promotions is what sells the product. Word of mouth comes after. I know from experience. If others don't like the bumps and find them annoying, screw them. Be aggressive and promote your products as being the best and ONLY the best in their category. Good luck. Your products seem like they are of great quality and purity and there is nothing wrong with aggressive marketing. Props to you.

BUMP for great products .
 
thate said:
Does the juice increase the effectiveness or just mask the taste? I have been taking it without juice.


it INCREASES absorption by a considerable amount

and Masks the bitter taste

we made a mistake in not adding flavor to it and carbs (taste) :)



1: Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2003 Sep;13(3):294-302. Related Articles, Links


Effect of alpha-lipoic acid combined with creatine monohydrate on human skeletal muscle creatine and phosphagen concentration.

Burke DG, Chilibeck PD, Parise G, Tarnopolsky MA, Candow DG.

Department of Human Kinetics, St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada B2G 2W5.

Alpha-lipoic acid has been found to enhance glucose uptake into skeletal muscle in animal models. Studies have also found that the co-ingestion of carbohydrate along with creatine increases muscle creatine uptake by a process related to insulin-stimulated glucose disposal. The purpose of this study was to determine the effect of alpha-lipoic acid on human skeletal muscle creatine uptake by directly measuring intramuscular concentrations of creatine, phosphocreatine, and adenosine triphosphate when creatine monohydrate was co-ingested with alpha-lipoic acid. Muscle biopsies were acquired from the vastus lateralis m. of 16 male subjects (18-32 y) before and after the experimental intervention. After the initial biopsy, subjects ingested 20 g x d(-1) of creatine monohydrate, 20 g x d(-1) of creatine monohydrate + 100 g x d(-1) of sucrose, or 20 g x d(-1) of creatine monohydrate + 100 g x d(-1) of sucrose + 1000 mg x d(-1) of alpha-lipoic acid for 5 days. Subjects refrained from exercise and consumed the same balanced diet for 7 days. Body weight increased by 2.1% following the nutritional intervention, with no differences between the groups. There was a significant increase in total creatine concentration following creatine supplementation, with the group ingesting alpha-lipoic acid showing a significantly greater increase (p < .05) in phosphocreatine (87.6 --> 106.2 mmol x kg(-1) dry mass [dm]) and total creatine (137.8 --> 156.8 mmol x kg(-1) dm). These findings indicate that co-ingestion of alpha-lipoic acid with creatine and a small amount of sucrose can enhance muscle total creatine content as compared to the ingestion of creatine and sucrose or creatine alone.


By Karl Hoffman
Alpha Lipoic Acid increases Creatine uptake




Both alpha lipoic acid (ALA) and creatine monohydrate have become staple supplements for athletes and bodybuilders. The former has been shown in a number of studies to increase glucose uptake into skeletal muscle. The benefit of this is clear to athletes, since a portion of the extra glucose taken up in the presence of ALA will be stored as glycogen for use as fuel for working muscles, helping to stave off fatigue.

The ergogenic effect of creatine is believed to be due to an increase in intracellular phosphocreatine concentrations and to increased phosphocreatine and adenosine triphosphate (ATP) resynthesis rates (1,2).

Phosphocreatine and ATP are the body’s so called "energy currency". When foodstuffs are consumed, the food is converted ultimately into ATP and phosphcreatine, which are used to fuel the body’s metabolic processes. Creatine may exert other anabolic effects as well. In one study myotubes, the basic building blocks of muscle tissue, were incubated in a medium containing creatine (3). It was observed that the addition of creatine led to an increase in insulin like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) as well as other so called myogenic regulatory factors (MRF). Both IGF-1 and MRF contribute to muscle hypertrophy, and this may be a contributing factor to the strength gains seen with creatine supplementation.

Yet a third phenomenon may be responsible for the ergogenic effects of creatine. The force of contraction of skeletal muscle is a function of intracellular calcium ion concentration. Potassium ion (K+) concentration on the other hand dampens the contractile response to Ca (2+) ions.
Green et.al. (5) showed that creatine uptake was 60% greater when creatine was consumed along with a carbohydrate compared to creatine consumed alone. Carbohydrate ingestion elevates insulin, and it is believed that the combination of insulin and simultaneous glucose transport into muscle tissue is responsible for the increased uptake of creatine.

Creatine is well known as a cell volumizer; water enters the cell along with creatine. This dilutes the K+ concentration allowing for a greater contractile response to calcium ions (4).

Green et.al. (5) showed that creatine uptake was 60% greater when creatine was consumed along with a carbohydrate compared to creatine consumed alone. Carbohydrate ingestion elevates insulin, and it is believed that the combination of insulin and simultaneous glucose transport into muscle tissue is responsible for the increased uptake of creatine. The amount of carbohydrate found by Green et.al required to maximize creatine uptake was 100 grams per 5 grams of creatine. This is a considerable amount of carbohydrate.

Since ALA has been shown to enhance glucose transport into muscle tissue, this prompted the authors of the current paper under discussion (6) to ask whether the consumption of ALA along with creatine and much smaller amounts of carbohydrate (to stimulate insulin secretion) might enhance creatine uptake. If so, this would avoid the excess carbohydrate calories required to maximize creatine uptake. This would benefit individuals with glucose intolerance or those people on a cutting cycle or ketogenic diet wishing to minimize carbohydrate consumption.






In the current study (6), the authors took 20 males 18-32 years of age who characterized themselves as recreational weightlifters, training moderately 3 times per week, and randomly assigned them to one of three groups. One group ingested 4 x 5 gm/day of creatine monohydrate alone (CR). The second group ingested 4 x 5 gm/day creatine plus 4 x 25 gm/day sucrose (CRS). The third group ingested 4 x 5 gm/day creatine, 4 x 25 gm/day sucrose, and 4 x 250 mg/day of ALA (CRSLA). The subjects were put on this regimen for seven days.






All subjects experienced significant weight gain after the 7-day period, averaging 1.7 kg, with no significant differences between the groups. Muscle biopsies were taken and total creatine and phosphocreatine were measured in each group. In the creatine and creatine plus sucrose groups there was no significant increase in either parameter. This is not surprising since the amount of sucrose ingested per gram of creatine was much less than the amount studies have shown necessary to enhance creatine uptake.

However, the creatine/sucrose/ALA group showed significant increases in both phosphocreatine and total creatine content in the skeletal muscle.
Alpha lipoic acid, when ingested with creatine and small amounts of carbohydrate significantly increases total intracellular creatine content as well as phosphocreatine content.

Phosphocreatine, the active form of creatine in that it is a store for high-energy phosphate, increased by approximately 20%. Total creatine content increased by about 15%.






Alpha lipoic acid, when ingested with creatine and small amounts of carbohydrate significantly increases total intracellular creatine content as well as phosphocreatine content. Since many chemical agents used by bodybuilders and athletes, including anabolic steroids, growth hormone, and thyroid hormone promote hyperglycemia and insulin resistance, the use of ALA with creatine allows for much lower carbohydrate intake and may well benefit those athletes with glucose intolerance.


1) Casey A, Constantin-Teodosiu D, Howell S, Hultman E, Greenhaff PL. Creatine ingestion favorably affects performance and muscle metabolism during maximal exercise in humans Am J Physiol. 1996 Jul;271(1 Pt 1):E31-7

2) Greenhaff PL, Bodin K, Soderlund K, Hultman E. Effect of oral creatine supplementation on skeletal muscle phosphocreatine resynthesis. Am J Physiol 1994 May;266(5 Pt 1):E725-30

3) Louis M, Van Beneden R, Dehoux M, Thissen JP, Francaux M. Creatine increases IGF-I and myogenic regulatory factor mRNA in C(2)C(12) cells. FEBS Lett. 2004 Jan 16;557(1-3):243-7.

4) Murphy RM, Stephenson DG, Lamb GD. Effect of creatine on contractile force and sensitivity in mechanically -skinned single fibers from rat skeletal muscle. Am J Physiol Cell Physiol. 2004 Jul 2

5) Green AL, Simpson EJ, Littlewood JJ, Macdonald IA, Greenhaff PL. Carbohydrate ingestion augments creatine retention during creatine feeding in humans. Acta Physiol Scand. 1996 Oct;158(2):195-202 6) Burke DG, Chilibeck PD, Parise G, Tarnopolsky MA, Candow DG. Effect of alpha-lipoic acid combined with creatine monohydrate on human skeletal muscle creatine and phosphagen concentration. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2003 Sep;13(3):294-302
 
d3track said:
i wanted to get some cee as well, what would work best with that?



go with CEE and EnerG combined

EnerG to recover very fast form workouts and add lean tissue

and

CEE for Strength gain

go for th Volume if you want the extra goodies (ala and NAG) and the liquidation price

make sure to mix with GRAPE juice only for Volume
 
Genetec Volume DNA

This Product was great! Better than all other cell volumizers I have tried.
For the first week I did not notice much increase in body mass or strength. But somewhere during the second week it seemd to kick in, and all of a sudden I started to gain like crazy. I gained 6lb's of quality muscle, as well as increased all my majour lifts. And I was also glad to get past a bench plateau that I had for a while.
The focus this product gave me in the gym was insane! I literally can not descibe it. Took me by surprise thats forsure.
I mixed it with GRAPE juice pre and post work out for 5 days, then after continued on with one scoop (1 heaping teaspoon) 30 mins pre work out.
I recommend this over V12 and Swole V2.

Genetec's VolumeDNA Final Review:

Size Gains: 7/10
Strength Gains: 7/10
Overall: 8/10


Hope you enjoyed the new review

seen here:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=420865
 
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