Var and Clen

[under]

Just about to do var at 50 mgs per day, 8 weeks, would it be counter productive to do both together if trying to gain muscle.....

 

[under]

Bump

 

[Joe Stenson]

save it for a cut

 

[ryan04]

That should get you nice and cut. You'll gain some muscle, obviously not like a bulker, but you'll gain.

 

[under]

Could clen help with pct along with nolva, instead of waiting for the pct to be over, would it help to start it straight away...

 

[Joe Stenson]

That should get you nice and cut. You'll gain some muscle, obviously not like a bulker, but you'll gain.

It's a simple matter of calorie manipulation. If his goal is to gain lean muscle while dropping a bit of body fat he's going to have to have his calories bang-on (whatever that may be for him, everyone is different). Clen just makes you burn more calories so to be at the same caloric intake you just get to eat a bit more. Seems like a waste to me...

 

[Joe Stenson]

Could clen help with pct along with nolva, instead of waiting for the pct to be over, would it help to start it straight away...

Clen is supposed to be slightly anti-catabolic, so yeah it couldn't hurt. BUT DON'T CUT DURING PCT.