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Sebastionv
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depends .. I didn't feel anything on btg but the old lady loves it.
Anthony Starks
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I think Var is quite a bit overhyped myself, I hope you are not expecting a lot from it.
Anthony Starks
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wootoom said:
Yes, of course I've used it, but thanks for asking. What exactly are you suggesting that it did for you. Your claim is bordering on ridiculous, its not a magic pill, just a weak anabolic with low sides.
dr0832
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well this is a first cycle so it should be the best cycle. I am not looking to gain a lot of weight. I have no need for what most people on here are going for. I am not a bodybuilder trying to have "prfect symmetry" or any other this other bs people talk about. Its just doesn't suit my goals. If I gain 5lbs of LBM and drop some bf (I'm at 10% now), I will be more then happy.
Tomorrow is days 7. If I don't feel something soon I am gonna have to order some other shit.
Tomorrow is days 7. If I don't feel something soon I am gonna have to order some other shit.
Anthony Starks
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dr0832 said:
You would probably have been a lot more happy with the results from 250-500mg of test.
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UA_Iron
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genarr3 said:
you could do a melting point test which could be done at home I believe
As BigAndy pointed out, this will not tell you the purity of the var, just if it contains var.
Anthony Starks
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dr0832 said:
1,500 posts on a steriod board and you are scared to inject? You might want to find a new hobby bro.
dr0832
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I am not scared to inject. I am not a bodybuilder. Lifting weights isn't a hobby to me. Its just a supplement to the sport I play. I lift weights because I play tennis at a near professional level as well as coach tennis. I also lift to look good to get more clients. I have no need to ever be over 200 lbs. Yes i could gain weight naturally but I can't lug around an extra 15lbs of fat and play tennis so bulking cycles are out. Even with clean bulking I gain too much fat. Just because your goal is to gain 20+ lbs in a cycle doesn't mean ever one has the same goals as you. I have 1500 posts because I wanted to educate myself before putting foreign substances into my body. Also I would never take test or anything where i could potentially lose all or most of my gains even with proper pct. This doesn't make sense to me. Actually it makes just as much sense to me as getting over you genetic limit. What the hells the purpose? You have to be dependent on AAS's if your abbove your limit, and this is something I would never do.
Anthony Starks
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dr0832 said:
Thats fine if your goals are not to gain a lot of weight, but what does that have to do with injecting?!? Primo, for example, is an injectable steriod that would be fine for you if you could get over your fear of injecting. Just don't feed me a line that you don't inject because it has ANYTHING to do with your goals, because that makes no sense. Some of the most mass inducing AS are orals (i.e. adrol and dbol), and some of the best lean mass drugs are injectables (i.e. primo and eq). Don't be scared!
dr0832
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I have no fear of needles. I just don't feel the need to inject something into my body when other compounds are available that work the same. Its a big hassle with primo because you have to take a lot of injections. Also Primo is very expensive and hard to find for me. Var powder is so damn cheap that theres no point to take primo. Also I never will take a compound such as Dbol or Drol, or winny, that could potential make me lose my hair, grow boobs, get terrible acne, bad aggression, or a number of other sides. Even if I could possible prevent the sides with anti-e's, or anti dht meds, I would not risk that shit. It makes no sense since I am not a bodybuilder. Maybe if i was being payed lots of money as a pro BB I would fuck with those compounds but other wise it makes no sense. Not to mention theres no point in my opinion to gain 20lbs and then lose 12 lbs because its water. You obviously can take some arimidex to prevent the water gain but then your gains really won't be much more then var, but you will be shut down harder which will potentially cause you to lose most of the gains. Sorry but I will probably never changed my stance on this matter.
Anthony Starks
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dr0832 said:
What, once a week? And if you really think your gains with test will even be in the same ballpark as with var, you are horribly wrong. You really think you have something figured out that the other million or so users are too dumb to figure out?
Dude take a chill pill and don't rush the gains.
Jesus christ, you are on 30mg ED and that's all you are taking.
If you take Var on its own you should take AT LEAST 40mg ED and the best doseage is 60mg ED.
Var is a great drug and no of course you wont see any acne, or noticeable sides.
The reason why Var has so much hype is because it is low on sides. If you were on Tren and didn't feel a thing then sure, you have duff gear.
Not to say Var doesn't have any sides at all but you are worrying about nothing. Do a source check with the guys on here if you are worried but you should give it at least 3 weeks before judging the stuff and you really really really should be on a higher dose mate unless you weigh something low like 150lbs lol.
From experience I didn't feel any benefit from it until the end of week 2 at 60mg ED but in my book it was still one of the best AAS I ever took as I kept all the gains and recovered very quickly.
Jesus christ, you are on 30mg ED and that's all you are taking.
If you take Var on its own you should take AT LEAST 40mg ED and the best doseage is 60mg ED.
Var is a great drug and no of course you wont see any acne, or noticeable sides.
The reason why Var has so much hype is because it is low on sides. If you were on Tren and didn't feel a thing then sure, you have duff gear.
Not to say Var doesn't have any sides at all but you are worrying about nothing. Do a source check with the guys on here if you are worried but you should give it at least 3 weeks before judging the stuff and you really really really should be on a higher dose mate unless you weigh something low like 150lbs lol.
From experience I didn't feel any benefit from it until the end of week 2 at 60mg ED but in my book it was still one of the best AAS I ever took as I kept all the gains and recovered very quickly.
dr0832
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no I already told you have have no plan to gain 15lbs at a time ever. I realize there is no comparison between test and var or var and deca, or var or tren or anything else and i could care less about this. And actually yes I find it hard to believe people want to do cycles gain 20 lbs, then slowy drop back down and do another cycle, and continue this for years on end.
SlavikHavik
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dr0832 said:
Sounds like your making excuses bro.
It dosent take any assitance to be under 200lbs, lean and athletic.
Actually those three characteristics go very well together and perpetuate each other.
You need to learn how to train and eat for your goals man. You may think you understand training, but judging by your posts in this thread, my guess is that you need to do some more learning.
dr0832
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believe me i am not some 15 year old. I have an extremely clean diet and I count all calories. I also work out with a buddy who bodybuilds and usually wins his competitions. I think he competes at 225 or so. Hes actually trained with Ronnie coleman on a number of occasions. And yes you can be 200 and 7% BF naturally but to get to that point you have to go well above 200 and bulk up, and at the same time gain a bunch of fat. I am not able to do this because of my profession. I am not making excuses. lots of people on hear have excuses.
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The Shadow
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based on half life...you should feel increased pump sin a few days
SlavikHavik
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dr0832 said:
Well your wrong.
I dont know what your definition of "well over" is. But you dont need to get that high over 200, if at all. Just think about what your saying. If "well over" is 210. (which is a fairly conservative definition of well over) and your goal is to be 185@8% bf. That means you would need to be 17% bf to get enough muscle to reach your goal. Thats just wrong. 185 isnt an un natural ammount of muscle.
Im currently 195 @ 8% bf, all natural. I did that with out going over 200.
and i do gymnastics as well. And its not like im the only guy to keep a low bf% and play sports. This isnt difficult.
