Two week cycles with PCT?

[T2O]

Sorry about this but I figured since it seems like a lot asking about pct I thought I would too... I am trying for the first time two weeks on and two weeks off 20mgs ed dbol. I am assuming to do this I will not need any pct at all right?? If so how do most run it? I figuired it isn't shutting me down at all. I wanted to do this for two or three cycles wait a couple months and start my Cyp., prop., and anavar cycle kickstarting it with more dbols. Am I fluctuating my bod to much or does everything look cool.???

 

[Barak]

2 weeks is too short on cycle evn as fast as D-bol acts, and two weeks is not enough for your nuts to recover.

 

[Dial_tone]

complete waste of time....where did you get that silly idea?

 

[Juice Authority]

complete waste of time....where did you get that silly idea?

Probably Nelson, although Nelson advocates 2 weeks on 4 weeks off.

 

[DrJMW]

From all of the feedback I have received from clients and colleagues, I am starting to think that the six-week cycle should be the standard.

 

[Dial_tone]

I'm partial to 8-10 week cycles, but 6 is great for Fina, orals, NPP, winstrol.

 

[Mavy]

I'm partial to 8-10 week cycles, but 6 is great for Fina, orals, NPP, winstrol.

I think you nailed it DT. It really depends on the ester.

I would personally rather run fast gear for 6 wks.

 

[dr0832]

I don't see why theres anything wrong. I am mean it all depends on your goals. If your goal is to gain 20+Lbs of muscle then it seems like a bad way to go, but not everybody has the same goals. I personally don't have any desure to become a freak, and thats why I think a short cycle. I mean you may argue your not getting your moneys worth, or something along those lines, but its just a personal opinion. I am not in any way trying to start shit, I am just merely voicing my viewpoint on the matter.

 

[sconoscuito]

guys claim m1t for 2 weeks delivers good results

 

[T2O]

I think you guys are missing the point. I have never done 2 week cycles before I just wanted to try it. Two weeks is not long at all but something like dbol for two weeks will probably build you fatser than 4 weeks "clean" I personally don't think two weeks is long enough for pct. I wanted to try a couple two week cycles to see if it works at all. I just want to know if I should bother running some clomid or not. I look at it a few ways.
1. Two weeks is not long enough at all to worry about pct which means two weeks off shouldn't be a problem before going back on for two more weeks.
2. Two weeks might just be long enogh to start screwing with hormone levels and pct should be used to ensure my natty test levels are up to the max.
3. Test levels might start to go down a little after two weeks on the Ds but throwing in clomid is making my hormones flucuate to much in such a short amount of time.

I will try this regardless if it's a waste of time for most or not. I just wanted some thoughts if clomid is a should or should'nt.

 

[sconoscuito]

so for people that say running it for two weeks would suck

have you ever done a cycle like that? if so what happened?

 

[T2O]

Maybe I will be the first one to try this lol...........One week in so far and the pumps are incredible but everyone knows that about Dbol. I am up 3 lbs which I am sure is water for right now. I guess it can't hurt to take a few clomids after and maybe it would be a good idea to go three weeks off before two back on. I wil keep everyone posted.

 

[Dial_tone]

You're hardly the first person to come up with the idea. A search probably would've brought up the 'short cycles for health' thread which concluded that even 3 weeks is possibly too short.

 

[T2O]

Hm, I never saw that thread....I will check it out. thanks bro.......

 

[casualbb]

Two weeks may sound like blasphemy to experienced juicers here, but there's solid reasoning behind it.

Essentially after two weeks on, only the part of the HPTA is inhibited rather than all of it. At the third week, however, all of it is finally inhibited and little further inhibition occurs.

The results of this is that a 2-week cycle takes relatively little time to recover from, especially if you have the proper PCT. A 2-week recovery is pretty normal (but people go 4 just to be safe). Along the same vein, cycles anywhere from 3-8 weeks have similar recovery time.

Go here for a 2-on-4-off case study with exact doses of AAS and PCT drugs used.

 

[T2O]

Thanks a lot Casualbb.......karma your way

 

[mrflexdiesel]

Two weeks may sound like blasphemy to experienced juicers here, but there's solid reasoning behind it.

Essentially after two weeks on, only the part of the HPTA is inhibited rather than all of it. At the third week, however, all of it is finally inhibited and little further inhibition occurs.

The results of this is that a 2-week cycle takes relatively little time to recover from, especially if you have the proper PCT. A 2-week recovery is pretty normal (but people go 4 just to be safe). Along the same vein, cycles anywhere from 3-8 weeks have similar recovery time.

Go here for a 2-on-4-off case study with exact doses of AAS and PCT drugs used.

Agree!