Two things I think are dumb around here...

[RdStrcklnd]

1) Bulking -
News Flash - eating as much shit as you can is not going to produce your perfect body. Yes the pros do it. If you train and use AS like them too, then it might be something to try.

2) Bias against orals -
Someone a couple of days ago was talking about a 50mg Winny/Anavar cycle and was met by great suggestions like "Use a needle pussy" and "I was just like you bro, you need to get over you fear of needles". Thats a pretty solid cycle if you ask me.

IMHO,
RdStrcklnd

 

[2Thick]

1. Most people do not eat correctly, let alone eating enough to balance proper training.

2. Orals do more damage to newbies than other types of gear. That is why people recommend needles.