Bro's if you haven't used it, then don't knock it. QV is the bomb boys. I have just finished a cyp, deca, and eq cycle and all three vials were overdosed. Got 11 cc's from the cyp, 12 from the deca, and about 10.5 out of the eq. Not only that but the gear was great, painless injects, and the growth was very impressive. Give em a try, you won't be disappointed.