That's being generous too in my opinion! I have taken all types of Sust(my faves being Organon Pre-Loads and Pakis), and the TT Testonon gave me gyno symptoms, when none of the others ever did. Plus(unless the newer batches have been fixed)it still hurts like a bear from the BA levels being too high. I think it is the only product by TT that I don't care for. They did fix their Test Cyp, which was also of low quality when it first became available, so perhaps they did the same with the Testonon. I havnt used it in awhile.