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romin
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Trenbolone is a19-nor steroid - there is a double carbon bond present at the 9 and 11 position on the steran nucleus. Trenbolone can not aromatize to estrogen nor be 5a-reduced.
It also bonds tightly to the Androgen Receptor which helps fat-burning and muscle building abilities are receptor mediated.
It produces impressive amounts of "new" muscle fiber, with minimal water retention - partly through an increase in IGF-1 within muscle tissue - and increased sensitivity of muscle satellite to IGF-1 and other growth factors - and an increase in the amount of DNA per muscle cell.
Trenbolone has a very strong binding affinity to the androgen receptor (A.R), binding much more strongly than testosterone.
Also it increases both protein synthesis as well as nitrogen retention in muscle tissue - Trenbolone can also bind with the (anti-anabolic) glucocorticoid receptor - thus aiding the muscle building process.
Along with the ability to improve nutrient efficiency and mineral absorption.
When running trenbolone and testosterone - I run my tren twice the ratio of test - such as test-e 400 and tren-e 800 - for me this "is" the sweet spot - but I do not recommend anyone new to tren starting with this ratio.
It also bonds tightly to the Androgen Receptor which helps fat-burning and muscle building abilities are receptor mediated.
It produces impressive amounts of "new" muscle fiber, with minimal water retention - partly through an increase in IGF-1 within muscle tissue - and increased sensitivity of muscle satellite to IGF-1 and other growth factors - and an increase in the amount of DNA per muscle cell.
Trenbolone has a very strong binding affinity to the androgen receptor (A.R), binding much more strongly than testosterone.
Also it increases both protein synthesis as well as nitrogen retention in muscle tissue - Trenbolone can also bind with the (anti-anabolic) glucocorticoid receptor - thus aiding the muscle building process.
Along with the ability to improve nutrient efficiency and mineral absorption.
When running trenbolone and testosterone - I run my tren twice the ratio of test - such as test-e 400 and tren-e 800 - for me this "is" the sweet spot - but I do not recommend anyone new to tren starting with this ratio.
WillKill
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woah!
Well if we were all scientists this would be great information.
Tren is 10x more anabolic than test and about that much harder on the liver and the kidneys.
Anyone taking tren for the first time needs to know there are many negative side effects and they don't go away after a few weeks. It can take 6 months for the sides effects to go away. Some of them are the headaches, the nightsweats, the loss of hard-ons, intense agression. And those are just a few that you will notice.
PLEASE BE CAREFULL WITH TREN DO A LOT OF RESEARCH!
NEVER DO MORE THAN 400MG PER WEEK
Tren is 10x more anabolic than test and about that much harder on the liver and the kidneys.
Anyone taking tren for the first time needs to know there are many negative side effects and they don't go away after a few weeks. It can take 6 months for the sides effects to go away. Some of them are the headaches, the nightsweats, the loss of hard-ons, intense agression. And those are just a few that you will notice.
PLEASE BE CAREFULL WITH TREN DO A LOT OF RESEARCH!
NEVER DO MORE THAN 400MG PER WEEK
tren ace works fast thats what separates it from any other injectable steroid. if you are like me and hate injections and like to run 6 week cycles its as good a choice as there is short of using an oral. keep it at 6 weeks and make sure to run caber/prami while on. not a good choice for a newb cause of the sides, your first cycle should be as side effect free as possible as should your first recovery after a cycle. so save tren for a 3rd or 4th cycle.
for experienced guys make sure to drink a lot of liquids while on, and make sure to experiment with doses. i wouldn't recommend running anything higher than 125 EOD, but i would start with 75-100 EOD and see if you can handle the sides before you bump it.. higher dosages doesn't necessarily mean better gains but it does mean more sides
for experienced guys make sure to drink a lot of liquids while on, and make sure to experiment with doses. i wouldn't recommend running anything higher than 125 EOD, but i would start with 75-100 EOD and see if you can handle the sides before you bump it.. higher dosages doesn't necessarily mean better gains but it does mean more sides
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tjbr
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BULKAMANIA
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Anyone try running tren with a low (hrt) dose of test yet? Seems to be the new trend to help keep sides at bay...
Going on 4T and Steve are dead on. Its best that you have experience with cycles under your belt to be able to recognize the sides associated with Tren, such as headaches, insomnia and irritability. I have run tren probably for 3 cycles now and I never go over 100EOD. There is no other steroid that will make such a dramatic difference in your bodys composition . Tren was originally developed to put lean mass on cattle and made its way into the body building world due to this. Keep in mind that it is highly anabolic and will produce gyno if you do not keep an eye on it.
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ALIN
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And ALWAYS use some additional testosterone along with it.
romin
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With all due respect - The only thing I would disagree on is - taking more then 400mg of ten is not as bad as many have thought in the past.
And here's why...
The problems happen when you keep you're test levels high.
Let me try and simplify this.
Both testosterone and trenbolone are "both" highly androgenic - and both compete for the same androgen receptors.
Therefor - you want more of the dry lean mass gains from trenbolone rather than testosterone.
Once I flip-flopped my dose from test-e 750 and tren-e 400 ... "to test-e 400 and tren-e 800."
... the sides were less than running test higher because of the higher estrogen and other sides from running higher test.
This is something that I have put a lot of research into and have found this to be the same across the board with those who have also ran the ratio like this.
Let me repeat - I DO NOT recommend this for anyone new to trenbolone - but I will say this...
Given enough time I'm sure you will see this the common trend - I will never run the combination as most people are use to - and that is tren low - and test high.
Running trenbolone at 800 - my only sides are minor night sweats and nothing more - with EXTREMELY good gains!
