Tren Tabs? And Anti-est interaction?

[darwinmcduck]

Are the 25mg Tren tabs an effective oral? Do they put a lot of water on you? How much do they effect the body's natural production of testosterone? Does taking true anti-estrogens (aromatase and arimidex) negate clomid? I understand it to be an estrogen itself.

Thanks

 

[Mr.X]

Are the 25mg Tren tabs an effective oral? Do they put a lot of water on you? How much do they effect the body's natural production of testosterone? Does taking true anti-estrogens (aromatase and arimidex) negate clomid? I understand it to be an estrogen itself.

Thanks

Why do you want to run 'Tren' tabs? They are fairly toxic, you can just do a shot and be done with it. Tren will shut down your natural production hard.

Taking arimidex will not 'negate' clomid effectiveness. Clomid is a mixed estrogen agonist/antagonist, (activator/blocker).

 

[darwinmcduck]

I have been at this 9 years and in that time I have had three abcesses removed. They were all from winstrol that some of my buds ended up havin problems with as well. I am honestly tired of takin shots. I hated the experince of the the surgery. They damaged my outer quad bad enought that my left leg is 3/4 inch smaller than my right. The knee on the left also became very easily inflamed afterwards. I don't want to turn my liver to stone either but don't plan to hit it too hard and could use some advice on some good liver protection. I appreciate you mentioning their toxicity. I have had good luck in the past with the 50mg winny tabs (the blue ones). Are these comparitivily as toxic?

 

[nydj66]

Winny is 17AA which means it's orally active. Tren tabs are not and you have to take very large doses for any appreciable amount to reach your bloodstream.

Tren does not convert to estrogen so an AI would do nothing for you on a tren only cycle.

However, tren is progestagenic and will shut down your HPTA harder than most other gear. It is also very likely a tren only cycle would kill your libido after about 3 weeks.

If you still insist on doing a tren cycle and don't want to take shots. You can buy fina pellets, extract the tren with a conversion kit, then mix it with DMSO to apply topically. At least this method is about 50% efficient.

 

[X Man]

Are the 25mg Tren tabs an effective oral? Do they put a lot of water on you? How much do they effect the body's natural production of testosterone? Does taking true anti-estrogens (aromatase and arimidex) negate clomid? I understand it to be an estrogen itself.

Thanks

turn it into a transdermal bro!

way better abosrption that an oral..and no pain to the inject..basskillers link is perfect..pm for it...

 

[Mr.X]

I have been at this 9 years and in that time I have had three abcesses removed. They were all from winstrol that some of my buds ended up havin problems with as well. I am honestly tired of takin shots. I hated the experince of the the surgery. They damaged my outer quad bad enought that my left leg is 3/4 inch smaller than my right. The knee on the left also became very easily inflamed afterwards. I don't want to turn my liver to stone either but don't plan to hit it too hard and could use some advice on some good liver protection. I appreciate you mentioning their toxicity. I have had good luck in the past with the 50mg winny tabs (the blue ones). Are these comparitivily as toxic?

I'm sorry to hear about your injection problems and surgeries you had to go thru. However, I would still suggest you not go for an oral only cycle. Consider this, you can just do 2MLs of test enan per week, that's just 1 shot per week and get great results. No need to put more pressure on your liver then you have to. How are you with glue or delt shots? if you get good quality clean gear and properly inject, you shouldn't have a problem.