tren question

[fireman664]

OK, so I just got off of a tren only cycle about a month ago....before anyone jumps my case about not adding test let me explain my position. I have done several tren only cycles over the course of 3 years. The ONLY side effect I get is lean muscle/strength gain. You can usually count the number of post acne zits on one hand. I have mixed it with only 300mg/week of test and had all kinds of problems. Zits, sore nips ect ect. This lead me to believe (like a few articles that I have read) that tren alone doesnt shut you down that bad (alone), but when mixed with test somehow amplifies the sides/shutdown (and gaines...I did make good gaines on the stack)....plus my goals are to not add any weight in a short period of time (do to my job).

so here is my question. My cycle a month ago was 100mg EOD/8 weeks. I feel totally recovered. Sex drive is crazy, weights are gaining, or the same. No acne....nothing. I was planning on doing another cycle of tren only @75mg ED (ED as apposed to EOD thanks to this board) in a few months as a cutting cycle (I have never put the diet with it like I should, and I am now) Am I ready/recovered enough to add the tren now (with a clen,T-3,ECA,T-rex stack)? I dont want to loose muscle while cutting.....so should I wait? how long? or you think I am good to go now?

Thanks
fireman

 

[ryan04]

Did you do PCT?
I'm not exactly sure what your asking. Are you planning on waiting a few months to run the tren? Are you running a clen/eca/t3 stack right now and asking if its okay to add tren now, or are you planning on doing these things together in a few months?

I'm assuming by the doses that you used acetate. Having a good sex drive and increasing strength are good signs that you probably made a good recovery...you would have had a crash by now.

A lot of people on this board will tell you time on=time off. I'd say that you are probably good to go if you feel allright...start another cycle whenever you feel ready. I would definately not run any t3 without an AAS, it will eat away at your muscle. There is probably no other better AAS to use with that cutting stack your talking about than tren...assuming your body fat is relatively low (i.e. 12-15%) you will get a lot of fat loss, get pretty cut and probably actually still gain a little muscle off of it.

Good luck bro!

 

[big_boy_1]

OK, so I just got off of a tren only cycle about a month ago....before anyone jumps my case about not adding test let me explain my position. I have done several tren only cycles over the course of 3 years. The ONLY side effect I get is lean muscle/strength gain. You can usually count the number of post acne zits on one hand. I have mixed it with only 300mg/week of test and had all kinds of problems. Zits, sore nips ect ect. This lead me to believe (like a few articles that I have read) that tren alone doesnt shut you down that bad (alone), but when mixed with test somehow amplifies the sides/shutdown (and gaines...I did make good gaines on the stack)....plus my goals are to not add any weight in a short period of time (do to my job).

so here is my question. My cycle a month ago was 100mg EOD/8 weeks. I feel totally recovered. Sex drive is crazy, weights are gaining, or the same. No acne....nothing. I was planning on doing another cycle of tren only @75mg ED (ED as apposed to EOD thanks to this board) in a few months as a cutting cycle (I have never put the diet with it like I should, and I am now) Am I ready/recovered enough to add the tren now (with a clen,T-3,ECA,T-rex stack)? I dont want to loose muscle while cutting.....so should I wait? how long? or you think I am good to go now?

Thanks
fireman

sore nips with only 300 mg test?

youll need some nolva 20 mg/day, plus femara, to see if nips soreness disappears, otherwise dont think you can get anywhere in this sport, since real gains only come with test and dbol, and these may cause gyno, you know.

 

[wirednutz]

since real gains only come with test and dbol

I beg to differ!!

 

[UFC22]

tren only eh? Everything was great to eh? I was originally going to do a tren/winny ONLY cycle but was convinced to add prop by the vets, so i'm adding prop. If I dont like how the test is treating me (sides wise) I will drop it and carry on. I plan on doing a tren/eq cycle with a tbol jumpstart (no test) just to see how things go. I have run a deca only but at a very low dosage. Made good gains and recovered nicely.
SO what kind of gains did you get on tren only? Few pounds of LBM? More? Let us know tren only sounds interesting.

 

[Only1eagle]

I will back up the OP

I have done 4 tren cycles.
1) Tren/winny inj
2) Tren
3) Tren/winny oral
4) Tren/winny oral

Each time I got night sweats. Each time with winny I got sore joints.

However each time I gained good muscle, strength and above all else definition. (see my gallery for pics after #3)

When Tren homebrew was coming around back in 2k2 and 2k3 it was hailed as the be all end all of AAS. Why people think you MUST add in test I just dont understand.

 

[fireman664]

sore nips with only 300 mg test?

youll need some nolva 20 mg/day, plus femara, to see if nips soreness disappears, otherwise dont think you can get anywhere in this sport, since real gains only come with test and dbol, and these may cause gyno, you know.

The sore nips thing was a couple years ago, and I had all the right ancillaries to deal with it. Just trying to make a point that with tren only+no sides (for me anyways) tren with even a little test+ every side I could get I think.

My question is, since I feel totally recovered, is there a point in waiting another couple of months, or am I ok to dive right back in?

Thanks

 

[fireman664]

Did you do PCT?
I'm not exactly sure what your asking. Are you planning on waiting a few months to run the tren? Are you running a clen/eca/t3 stack right now and asking if its okay to add tren now, or are you planning on doing these things together in a few months?

I'm assuming by the doses that you used acetate. Having a good sex drive and increasing strength are good signs that you probably made a good recovery...you would have had a crash by now.

A lot of people on this board will tell you time on=time off. I'd say that you are probably good to go if you feel allright...start another cycle whenever you feel ready. I would definately not run any t3 without an AAS, it will eat away at your muscle. There is probably no other better AAS to use with that cutting stack your talking about than tren...assuming your body fat is relatively low (i.e. 12-15%) you will get a lot of fat loss, get pretty cut and probably actually still gain a little muscle off of it.

Good luck bro!

This is exactly my goal. If I could keep all my current size, loose some bf%, and even gain a little strength I'd hit every goal with this cycle.

I am going into it with the attitude it is 70% diet, 25% in the gym, and 5% gear. And for the first time I have the diet/gym down pat...so I am anxious to add the gear since (like you sugested) I dont want to add the t3 without it since it has a tendecy to eat muscle too.


Thanks, and sorry for my confusing first post

 

[Demonix]

You know I had bad sides from test first cycle. Pretty much same as you did. I took anti-e's and controled them for most part. But now on my 3rd cycle I have very few sides from test now. Doing same test as the first time as well.