tren at 35.75 mgs ed with 100mgs of prop ed is the way to start off. shit will blow u up in 2 weeks. then at week three i bumped up to 50mgs of tren ed. and so on... got up to 100mgs by weeks 4 and was alll messed up went back down to 75mgs of tren ed and 125mgs of prop ed to finish my cycle and i was jacked and shredded...
straight up tren is insane all the way around., makes me insane and strength is insane, veins are insane.. be careful its not something to mess around with first go around but if u learn to handle it right its AWESOME