Tren/prop cutter...add winny or Clen??

[motorhumper]

I have done a tren/test prop/winny cycle in the past with good results. I am preparing to start another cycle very soon. I have my tren and prop and now I have wondered if clen instead of winny would be more usefull to me. Diet , workouts and cardio with be spot on, I only need to drop about 15 lbs so my bf is not that bad. I know that the winny is great to run with tren to combat the sides but what about clen? Would I gain anything over the winny by dropping it and adding clen? I would rather not do both at this point. Any help would be great.

 

[PatBateman3]

I have done a tren/test prop/winny cycle in the past with good results. I am preparing to start another cycle very soon. I have my tren and prop and now I have wondered if clen instead of winny would be more usefull to me. Diet , workouts and cardio with be spot on, I only need to drop about 15 lbs so my bf is not that bad. I know that the winny is great to run with tren to combat the sides but what about clen? Would I gain anything over the winny by dropping it and adding clen? I would rather not do both at this point. Any help would be great.

I would try the clen and compare it to your old cycle once you're done to see which one you like better.

Just get some Dostinex for any progesterone related fina sides, and you may even want to consider adding in arimidex at a low dose.

 

[iron345addict]

I would try the clen and compare it to your old cycle once you're done to see which one you like better.

Just get some Dostinex for any progesterone related fina sides, and you may even want to consider adding in arimidex at a low dose.

personally clen and tren= lots of sweating. One of either by itself is enough for me to sweat a ton. Not sure if that is true for you though but is something to consider, but on the other hand some ppl like to sweat a lot.

 

[motorhumper]

I will be running Ldex at .5mg eod throughtout the cycle. I do get some wicked night sweats with the tren but I can live with it. My only interest in the clen is that I see it as something to really kick up the fat loss. However I dont know if gains coming from the clen would outweigh gains coming from the winny? I would consider the dostinex to combat the tren sides. I am still not sure which way to go here......

 

[PatBateman3]

I will be running Ldex at .5mg eod throughtout the cycle. I do get some wicked night sweats with the tren but I can live with it. My only interest in the clen is that I see it as something to really kick up the fat loss. However I dont know if gains coming from the clen would outweigh gains coming from the winny? I would consider the dostinex to combat the tren sides. I am still not sure which way to go here......

Personally, if it were me, I would try and simplify and have a real clean diet, and end with the winny. I would do 8 weeks on the tren/prop and run the winny the last 2 weeks + another 1-2 weeks after that.

 

[toxicsambo]

I have done a tren/test prop/winny cycle in the past with good results. I am preparing to start another cycle very soon. I have my tren and prop and now I have wondered if clen instead of winny would be more usefull to me. Diet , workouts and cardio with be spot on, I only need to drop about 15 lbs so my bf is not that bad. I know that the winny is great to run with tren to combat the sides but what about clen? Would I gain anything over the winny by dropping it and adding clen? I would rather not do both at this point. Any help would be great.

Definitly run clen. Also some1 said run armidex. I would say affirmative. You want to lose water and fat so also work in some anti-e's. Nolva should be in every cycle IMO. Estrogen retains fat deposits. tren/prop/clen/armi/nolva. You should get shredded to pieces if your diet and training is right. GL.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Winny is the better choice for a multitude of reasons. It's a DHT derivative, it will block the progesterogenic effects of tren (should you get any), and it will raise your body temp as much as clen does while being a much better anticatabolic. But probably the best reason is because it doesn't stop working after a couple of weeks like clen does. I used to be a big fan of clen, but after lots of experience with it I abandoned it entirely as the point of diminishing returns is simply too difficult to avoid.

 

[PatBateman3]

Winny is the better choice for a multitude of reasons. It's a DHT derivative, it will block the progesterogenic effects of tren (should you get any), and it will raise your body temp as much as clen does while being a much better anticatabolic. But probably the best reason is because it doesn't stop working after a couple of weeks like clen does. I used to be a big fan of clen, but after lots of experience with it I abandoned it entirely as the point of diminishing returns is simply too difficult to avoid.

Nice post....I agree, but don't you think 8 weeks on winny could be a bit harsh for him?? (I guess what I am suggesting is he have baseline levels est. by doc and then add the winny but get tested again at 3rd and 6th weeks)

 

[Makavelli]

Prop, tren, winstrol, and clen is an extremely effective cutter. Remember that Clen and winstrol act completely different. Clen is a beta 2 agonist and winstrol is an AAS. I'd do both, but if you have to pick one use the winstrol. As stated above it will counteract the progesterone from the tren.

 

[Slyder190]

Prop, tren, winstrol, and clen is an extremely effective cutter. Remember that Clen and winstrol act completely different. Clen is a beta 2 agonist and winstrol is an AAS. I'd do both, but if you have to pick one use the winstrol. As stated above it will counteract the progesterone from the tren.

Good answer!

 

[motorhumper]

Excellent feedback from you guys...thanks! I think I will run the tried and true winstol for now. Maybe experiment with clen down the road.