Tren or Test?

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ok peeps, I've taken two cycles in my whole life both of them being Anavar only cycles with PCT.

I've been working out for 4 years, have a clean diet roughly 12% Bodyfat, and weigh 180 at 5'11".

I'm looking to do my first Test or Tren cycle.

I was going to do a Test only cycle that goes like this:

Test Eth: 500mg a week
HCG: 250ui every 4 days
Letro: .5-2.5 on hand for gyno
Nolva: 40/20 PCT

But after reading lots of reviews I think I might do a Tren only cycle instead of the Test.

I'm looking to gain roughly 10-15lbs muscle without gaining much bodyfat. It was hard as hell to get from 24% down to 12% and I dont want to go back up.

I was assuming that with the winter Test Eth cycle I was going to have to gain some bodyfat to really gain muscle, but planned on cutting at the end of winter so I'd be ready for Spring.

But after reading I see that Tren is good for loosing bodyfat and you can gain good muscle as well.

I understand the ups and downs for both. I understand that Tren can cause a different type of gyno which is Progesterone related and I'd need Dostinex and Letro on hand to combat this.

So which of these two cycles should I take? And can I perfect either of them anymore?

Cycle 1:
Test Eth: 500mg a week for 8 weeks
HCG: 250ui every 4 days
Letro: .5-2.5 on hand for gyno
Finastrade: 1mg ED for 8 weeks
Nolva: 40/20 PCT

Cycle 2:
Tren Ethanate: 300mg a week for 8 weeks
HCG: 250ui every 4 days
Dostinex (Caber): 3 weeks of .5mg on hand in case of prog
Letro: 2.5 on hand for gyno
Finastrade: 1mg ED for 8 weeks
Nolva/Clomid: 50/20 combo PCT

 

[eClenbuterol]

Go with the first cycle bro and leave the Tren for later down the road.

 

[iron_matt-CB]

Ya man a tren only cycle will most likely kill your sex drive.. You would be better off using the Tren and test together and using the test at a higher mg per week thAn the Tren.

 

[mrribbit]

Yes, no doubt that the tren will destroy your sex drive UNLESS you are using test at the same time and have it dosed at least 200mg higher each week but in all honesty bro, I would save the tren for down the road at least a few cycles.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Well it sounds like the only major downfall to tren is the low sex drive and cough, both of which I think I can handle for a couple months. So if we waive those to the side why would you guys say go with Test first?

Wouldnt I gain about the same with tren but have less bodyfat when the cycles over?

 

[biggntx]

Tren w/ no test equals no sex drive.....not too mention Im sure the sides are twice as bad. Unless you plan on running tren w/ test.........stick with the test only cycle bro.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Ok so what if I throw in a little test to the tren mix? How would this compare to the test only cycle in terms of gains and bodyfat increases?

Cycle 2:
Test Ethanate: 300mg a week for 8 weeks
Tren Ethanate: 300mg a week for 8 weeks
hcg: 250ui every 4 days
Dostinex (Caber): 3 weeks of .5mg on hand in case of prog
letro: 2.5 on hand for gyno
Finastrade: 1mg ED for 8 weeks
nolva/Clomid: 50/20 combo PCT

 

[dirtyluke1]

Test only at 500mg/week for a first cycle is perfect

 

[ALIN]

Ok peeps, I've taken two cycles in my whole life both of them being Anavar only cycles with PCT.

I've been working out for 4 years, have a clean diet roughly 12% Bodyfat, and weigh 180 at 5'11".

I'm looking to do my first Test or Tren cycle.

I was going to do a Test only cycle that goes like this:

Test Eth: 500mg a week
HCG: 250ui every 4 days
Letro: .5-2.5 on hand for gyno
Nolva: 40/20 PCT

But after reading lots of reviews I think I might do a Tren only cycle instead of the Test.

I'm looking to gain roughly 10-15lbs muscle without gaining much bodyfat. It was hard as hell to get from 24% down to 12% and I dont want to go back up.

I was assuming that with the winter Test Eth cycle I was going to have to gain some bodyfat to really gain muscle, but planned on cutting at the end of winter so I'd be ready for Spring.

But after reading I see that Tren is good for loosing bodyfat and you can gain good muscle as well.

I understand the ups and downs for both. I understand that Tren can cause a different type of gyno which is Progesterone related and I'd need Dostinex and Letro on hand to combat this.

So which of these two cycles should I take? And can I perfect either of them anymore?

Cycle 1:
Test Eth: 500mg a week for 8 weeks
HCG: 250ui every 4 days
Letro: .5-2.5 on hand for gyno
Finastrade: 1mg ED for 8 weeks
Nolva: 40/20 PCT

Cycle 2:
Tren Ethanate: 300mg a week for 8 weeks
HCG: 250ui every 4 days
Dostinex (Caber): 3 weeks of .5mg on hand in case of prog
Letro: 2.5 on hand for gyno
Finastrade: 1mg ED for 8 weeks
Nolva/Clomid: 50/20 combo PCT

I would NEVER suggest a TREN only cycle. Bad news for many reasons. TEST/TREN stacked together can make an amazing cycle.
If your going with just the one compound,,,choose the TEST E cycle.