tren/masteron cycle VS. Eq/sust cycle

[stevesmi]

i feel as though both can help me reach my goal of having a harder and leaner vascular look. i have never ran any of these except the sust.

please tell me which one YOU would pick factoring in sides and how easy it would be to recover.

cost and length of cycle is NOT a consideration in my decision making, i realize how long each cycle would go and how much the cost will be and am not worried about that.

lets stick with side effects (i dont want to go through bad sides), gains (which one will give me that vascular look most effectively), and post cycle recovery (i realize the tren/mast cycle will be tougher to recover from but do the pros outweigh the cons?)

which one would you do and which have you done and how were the results?

thanks

PS. I am 5'6" 188 pounds. this will be my 3rd cycle.. I am almost 30. been lifting for 12 years but started juicing last year and am currently on my 2nd cycle. brainstorming a 3rd cycle for late this year. again am looking for more of that vascular look rather then the thicker muscle I feel like i have now (see pic)

 

[dr.shavargo]

Tren/Mast id say for the vascular look you want...

 

[downunder hunter]

test should be a base of every cycle imo, throw in some prop with the tren/mast and thats dynamite

 

[stevesmi]

but are the sides worth it? if i feel like shit all the time what good is that cycle? i read so many threads about tren problems

i am trying to weigh the pros and cons

 

[downunder hunter]

but are the sides worth it? if i feel like shit all the time what good is that cycle? i read so many threads about tren problems

i am trying to weigh the pros and cons

I suppose its one of those things you just have to try for yourself because everyone is different, personally I dont think I will use it again in the near future.
After 4 weeks I got terrible fatigue from it, im sure the bromo didnt help but I felt like garbage! I was ripped and vascular but just isnt worth feeling like that again it took away the superman feeling I got from test, plus i couldnt sleep without sleeping pills and I wasnt a joy to be around most the time I was moody as hell!

Great results but it was at a price!

 

[stevesmi]

I suppose its one of those things you just have to try for yourself because everyone is different, personally I dont think I will use it again in the near future.
After 4 weeks I got terrible fatigue from it, im sure the bromo didnt help but I felt like garbage! I was ripped and vascular but just isnt worth feeling like that again it took away the superman feeling I got from test, plus i couldnt sleep without sleeping pills and I wasnt a joy to be around most the time I was moody as hell!

Great results but it was at a price!

thanks. what was your cycle like specifically? you took tren and masteron? how many mg? how often u inject etc? if you don't mind.

i am willing to do a 4 week cycle and deal with the sides if the gains are that awesome.

 

[stevesmi]

why not just go sus/mast/eq stack instead?

you got good results from that?

 

[downunder hunter]

thanks. what was your cycle like specifically? you took tren and masteron? how many mg? how often u inject etc? if you don't mind.

i am willing to do a 4 week cycle and deal with the sides if the gains are that awesome.

wk 1-10 test prop 525mg eod
wk 1-8 tren ace 350mg eod
wk 1-10 mast 400mg eod

I was ripped and vascular but I couldnt get threw the day, after every workout I would get home have my pwo shake something to eat then go straight to sleep! I was yawning constantly and I was a prick!
I just started out with girl and almost blew it, on christmas day she had all her family over like 2 dozen and I stormed out because I thought in my head they were all against me and I was picking up bad vibes I left her in tears and went home and sat home by myself with the shits, tren fucks with your mind bro!

 

[stevesmi]

wk 1-10 test prop 525mg eod
wk 1-8 tren ace 350mg eod
wk 1-10 mast 400mg eod

I was ripped and vascular but I couldnt get threw the day, after every workout I would get home have my pwo shake something to eat then go straight to sleep! I was yawning constantly and I was a prick!
I just started out with girl and almost blew it, on christmas day she had all her family over like 2 dozen and I stormed out because I thought in my head they were all against me and I was picking up bad vibes I left her in tears and went home and sat home by myself with the shits, tren fucks with your mind bro!

sorry bro. i've had 2 incidents like that both while on cycle. both involved a group of people where i felt like everyone was against me also. i try to avoid groups like that and try to do some type of activity everyday or else i find myself in trouble.

thanks for that response. i am gonna keep brainstorming for this fall and weigh the pros and cons.

hopefully they were understanding of your situation, but i doubt they did

 

[downunder hunter]

Yeah her mum wasnt too happy with me after that but she got over it, so did my now girlfriend I told her I wouldnt run tren again and she's sweet with that, she thinks im crazy for even using steroids because i 'dont need them' girls are so silly

 

[C.K.]

Tren and mast all the way... throw in a shot of sust once a week yummy!

 

[OMEGA]

why not just go sus/mast/eq stack instead?

yep