Tren in the beginning or end

[LookWhatICanDo]

I was wondering if it is better to run fina at the beginning or the end of a cycle i have heard mixed reviews on this topic wanted to check with you guys? this is what i plan on running or some variation of this:
Dbol 50mg/ed 1-4
Eq 600mg/ew 1-14
Test E 750mg/ew 1-14
Tren A 75mg/ed 1-6/8 or 6/8-14 ?
Var 75mg/ed 6-14

Also was wondering if i should front load the Eq? i have never ran eq before I have always ran deca or npp so i dont know to much about it..

 

[Big O]

the end....you'll appreciate it later...

 

[ksbst9mm]

the end....you'll appreciate it later...

agree use it at the end.

ksbst9mm

 

[boston789]

If you werent using dbol then I would say use it at the beginning. BUt since you are then use it at the end definately.

 

[Makavelli]

Good cycle. I would run it at the end. It will keep you gaining and it's easier to recover from. I always front load EQ.

 

[ryan04]

Sorry but I have to disagree w/ these guys. I like running tren at the beginning or middle of a cycle and running whatever I'm stacking it with for a few weeks after. Tren is extremely suppressive and I've found that you a) don't have as bad of a crash and b) recovery and PCT seem easier and more effective. I once came off a tren/test cycle by stopping them both at the same time and I had a hellish crash, even w/ HCG and clomid for PCT. Just finished a long (20 wk) tren and test cycle (1st 15 wk tren/20 wk test) and I feel fine. PCT is going well, havn't lost any gains and I'm not emotionally spent.
But to each his own, either way that looks like a great cycle. Good luck bro.

 

[cejeff]

If tren is so suppressive the (what I may run myself) one to do is:

Test E 500mg/wk 1-12
Tren (whatever you do) wks 1-8
Anavar 60mg ED wks 8-14
PCT wks 14-17

 

[boston789]

If tren is so suppressive the (what I may run myself) one to do is:

Test E 500mg/wk 1-12
Tren (whatever you do) wks 1-8
Anavar 60mg ED wks 8-14
PCT wks 14-17

Im gonna be running my var two weeks after my last shot of eq and test. After the two weeks im gonna run my PCT which includes HCG and nolva. Now my question is do you start running the nolva right after the last inject simultaneously with the nolva or do you wait until your cycle is completely over and then start to HCG and nolva?

 

[surferstar]

END! Can't finish up a cycle any better than to used tren. Im using it now to wrap up my cycle and its amazing. Tren will be part of every cycle for now on.

 

[buffalo]

I say the end,at least that's what i do. Tren is not a problem for everyone so you very well may have no problem's recovering from it.

 

[Makavelli]

Sorry but I have to disagree w/ these guys. I like running tren at the beginning or middle of a cycle and running whatever I'm stacking it with for a few weeks after. Tren is extremely suppressive and I've found that you a) don't have as bad of a crash and b) recovery and PCT seem easier and more effective. I once came off a tren/test cycle by stopping them both at the same time and I had a hellish crash, even w/ HCG and clomid for PCT. Just finished a long (20 wk) tren and test cycle (1st 15 wk tren/20 wk test) and I feel fine. PCT is going well, havn't lost any gains and I'm not emotionally spent.
But to each his own, either way that looks like a great cycle. Good luck bro.

The fact that tren is so supressive is the exact reason why it should be run at the end and then one can start PCT immediately. If you run it in the beginning or middle you will still be shut down for another 4-8 weeks and then start PCT. This can cause serious recovery problems.

This is my opinion based on personal and hands on experiences with lots of athletes and bodybuilders.

 

[instant.muscle]

i'm bout 2 do this
1-4 dbol 35mg ED
5-12 Tren A 50mg ED
1-15 Test 500mg
1-15 EQ 600mg
this way after i drop the dbol i wont lose any strength and when i drop tren week 12 the test and EQ will b keeping 2 help me keep gains, try this bro, drrman recomended it 2 me and he knows his shit

 

[LookWhatICanDo]

Good cycle. I would run it at the end. It will keep you gaining and it's easier to recover from. I always front load EQ.

what dose should i use for front loading EQ 1000-1200 x 2weeks ? never ran EQ so i have no clue...

 

[Makavelli]

what dose should i use for front loading EQ 1000-1200 x 2weeks ? never ran EQ so i have no clue...

1200 mgs the first week, 900 mgs the second, and down to 600 for the remainder.

 

[LookWhatICanDo]

1200 mgs the first week, 900 mgs the second, and down to 600 for the remainder.

thanks mak i appreciate it...