tren e ok for 2nd cycle or to harsh?

[skaman007]

hi im 40,,190lbs,14percent bf,,.i have many dbol only cycles and i 12 weeker of test e behind me,i am torn between 2 cycles to do next,,,looking for lean gains as carrying bit extra fat from last dbol cycle at xmas.
1st cycle option
weeks 1-4 monsterdrol 30mg day
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg week
week 9-14 monsterdrol or winny 30 mg day

cycle 2
week 1-10 tren e 250mg week
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg week
week 1-4 or week 9-14 monsterdrol 30mg day.
which option is best for lean gain and vascularity .
both cycles will run proviron at 25mg day ,weeks 6-12
and hcg 500ius weeks 4-13
pct sustain and nolva at 20mg day.

 

[C Manson]

why not go for tren ace to see how you handle the sides...seems to be what most experienced bros on here reccomend.

 

[wolfman87]

don't even do tren for your second cycle or third for that matter. there are plenty of others out there to tryout and get experience on before you go that route. when you do tho just stick to an 8 week prop/ace cycle. tren has some of the worst sides and you need to have some experience under your belt with other compounds before you step up to tren. it's not a joke (not that any of it is).

 

[brandonp005]

hi im 40,,190lbs,14percent bf,,.i have many dbol only cycles and i 12 weeker of test e behind me,i am torn between 2 cycles to do next,,,looking for lean gains as carrying bit extra fat from last dbol cycle at xmas.
1st cycle option
weeks 1-4 monsterdrol 30mg day
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg week
week 9-14 monsterdrol or winny 30 mg day

cycle 2
week 1-10 tren e 250mg week
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg week
week 1-4 or week 9-14 monsterdrol 30mg day.
which option is best for lean gain and vascularity .
both cycles will run proviron at 25mg day ,weeks 6-12
and hcg 500ius weeks 4-13
pct sustain and nolva at 20mg day.

i'm currently running a cycle just like your first option but i'm not running monsterdrol twice...only using it to jump start my test. i'm finishing up week 1 now.

 

[eddymerckx]

No tren--i really believe tren is for bros that are looking to break through to a much higher level than they can get from plain of test/deca--and my guess, at 40, you may not want to bother with the sides when test alone makes you feel like a new man (I am 42).

 

[armyman]

Tren E gave me a lot of acne, high blood pressure, headaches. That shit is nothing to mess around with. Use Ace I get no sides from tren Ace. in fact i was on tren e. My BP was averaging 145/90; stopped for 10 days, switch to tren ace (3 weeks now) blood pressure is 130/70. I can deal with headaches and acne, but BP is something you dont mess with.

Id say use Deca until it doesnt give you the results you want, and then use tren.

 

[eClenbuterol]

I've abused tren in the past but I would never use it again. It's toxic, made my liver hurt, gave me insomnia and night sweats, made me angry about everything., couldn't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded. And I began to dread that cough every time I injected. F that.

 

[HAYEZ]

once u go tren you will never go back...i would stay away as long as possible hahhah seriously though i dream of tren